Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 08:07 AM Jun 2015

Scott Walker promises to sign abortion ban that does not include exceptions for rape, incest

http://bloggingblue.com/2015/06/scott-walker-promises-to-sign-abortion-ban-that-does-not-include-exceptions-for-rape-incest/


Yesterday Gov. Scott Walker promised he sign a 20-week abortion ban in Wisconsin regardless of whether such a ban had an exception for cases in which the woman was a victim of rape or incest.

Gov. Scott Walker said Monday he’s prepared to sign a 20-week abortion ban bill that has no exception for cases of rape or incest.

Asked Monday about the bill following a speech at a Boys & Girls Club event in Delavan, Walker said he would sign the measure banning the procedure after 20 weeks whether or not it had those exemptions.

No doubt Republicans in the Legislature will move quickly to give Gov. Walker the abortion ban he wants in order to further burnish his conservative credentials for the extremists who comprise the core of Republican presidential primary voters.



Squat Wanker should not be allowed within 200 yards of a Boys and Girls Club.
5 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Scott Walker promises to sign abortion ban that does not include exceptions for rape, incest (Original Post) Scuba Jun 2015 OP
how many women decide after 20 weeks? (a serious question) alc Jun 2015 #1
You are using uninformed and limited rationale for Ilsa Jun 2015 #2
Well said Ilsa! n/t horseshoecrab Jun 2015 #3
+1 Johonny Jun 2015 #4
"Would it be better to give in on some issues?" It's been tried. JHB Jun 2015 #5

alc

(1,151 posts)
1. how many women decide after 20 weeks? (a serious question)
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 09:05 AM
Jun 2015

There is overwhelming popular support for early term abortion. But support falls when it includes late term abortion, no-parental-notification (as other medical procedures require), and some other issues.

Is there a way to help women make the choice under 20 weeks? Do women not know before? My wife knew pretty early but there are stories every now and then about women who don't know until birth.

Would it be better to give in on some issues (which have much support - even majority depending on who's counting but that's enough for anti-choice politicians). Then fight about access rather than unrestricted abortion rights? There are plenty of places where abortion is legal but impossible to get. I'd rather see it available and easy to get under 20 weeks and difficult (even impossible) after 20 weeks rather than impossible from the start.

Is this a slippery-slope argument and the pro-choice groups fighting won't give the first inch because the anti-choicers will just move to the next inch? Even if that's the case it seems like anti-choicers have already made abortion impossible in many places and a new approach should be tried.

Ilsa

(61,720 posts)
2. You are using uninformed and limited rationale for
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 05:15 PM
Jun 2015

reasons behind mid term or late term abortion. Walker's "fetal pain" lie would prevent abortion for all situations, including gross deformities, severe brain development issues like anencephaly, hydrocephaly, etc. Sometimes, certain conditions cannot be confirmed until around 24 weeks. So it's "tough shit" for those families, huh?

This measure is about promoting the war on women's reproductive rights, no matter how many suffer for the rest of their lives.

JHB

(37,166 posts)
5. "Would it be better to give in on some issues?" It's been tried.
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 06:23 PM
Jun 2015

The course you suggest is pretty much been in effect for the last 20 years ("find common ground&quot .

The harsh reality is that the people driving the anti-choice movement will not accept any compromise. They want to undo every court decision and bit of legislation that recognizes privacy rights and limits their ability to use the law to enforce their view of sex ought to be. They have the express goal of unmaking the Sexual Revolution. They think God's order was overthrown by privacy and the Pill, and they're on a holy crusade to restore "the way it ought to be".

Individuals protestors may have a more nuanced view, but they'll still go along with the movement, and the people driving that movement want it all.

At this point we've learned that any "giving in on one point" just provides them with a new starting point for the next push. So no, it's decidedly not better to give in on some issues.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Scott Walker promises to ...