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marmar

(77,129 posts)
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 10:51 AM Jun 2015

It would be nice to hear it straight for once. Stopping climate change means giving up on growth.


from Dissent magazine:


Growth vs. the Climate
Daniel Immerwahr ▪ Spring 2015



[font size="1"]"We have the solutions." At the People’s Climate March, September 21, 2014 (Light Brigading/Flickr)[/font]

The year 2013 was one of the ten hottest on record. So was 2010. So were 2009, 2007, 2006, 2005, 2003, 2002, and 1998. Last year, with its polar vortex and biting winter, seemed to bring relief to North America. Except it also brought temperatures of over 120ºF to Australia, massive flooding to Malaysia, and the third harrowing year of drought to California. As it turns out, 2014 was the hottest single year since meteorologists started measuring in 1850.

By now, we’ve raised the average global temperature a little less than one degree Celsius since the beginning of the industrial revolution. The best predictions suggest that, if we go about our business as usual, we will raise it somewhere between four and six degrees by 2100. With the heat will also come side effects: fiercer and more frequent storms, droughts, acidifying oceans, melting glaciers, and the loss of species.

And the bad news is, that’s not even the bad news. Although the altered climate is threatening in its own right—heat alone killed tens of thousands of Europeans in the lethal summer of 2003—the thing to really worry about is the infrastructure. Each drought, each megastorm, each scorching summer puts a strain on the complex systems that provide us with water, food, and power and that keep disease and disorder at bay. These systems can often endure a single crisis—one Sandy, one Katrina. The problem is what happens when the Sandys and Katrinas start coming back to back, piling up on each other. That’s when the money runs out, the electricity goes off, and everyone starts wondering where to find water. If true catastrophe arrives, it will not come gradually—the frog in boiling water—but, as the historian Nils Gilman writes, “as a series of radical discontinuities—a series of bewildering ‘oh shit’ events.”

Welcome to the future. Oh shit.

Those with long memories will know that this isn’t the first time it felt like we were testing the earth’s ability to support us. In 1968, the biologist Paul Ehrlich published The Population Bomb, which prophesied civilizational collapse for societies unable to rapidly bring down their birth rates. There were simply too many people, he argued, for the planet’s dwindling supply of resources. Ehrlich got a vasectomy and preached birth control, though he also advocated for more extreme measures: compulsory sterilization, a ban on cars, and a tax on cribs. Internationally, he proposed “triage,” aiding the countries that remained viable but writing off those, like India, that he saw as too far gone. .......................(more)

http://www.dissentmagazine.org/article/growth-vs-the-climate



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randome

(34,845 posts)
5. Exactly.
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 11:35 AM
Jun 2015

[hr][font color="blue"][center]The truth doesn’t always set you free.
Sometimes it builds a bigger cage around the one you’re already in.
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NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
2. More than that, we need to decrease our numbers significantly.
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 11:00 AM
Jun 2015

I have been an advocate for zero population growth since being a teenager in the 1970's and the evidence that we're fucking up only grows worse.

One of the reasons I cannot abide a Clinton is that Bill halted efforts to improve vehicle efficiency and did more harm than good by allowing SUVs and Light Trucks to be excepted from the rules.

Anyway, just as the Princeton Wedge game to find ways to end the annual increases in emissions doesn't go far enough (we need to halt and then reverse the trends) it's not enough to end growth, we actually have to reduce.

Of course both parties are pro business, pro growth, and very few people have the courage to speak the truth about it.

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
3. It would be hard to run on a platform of "I'm going to make life harder for you and your children."
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 11:08 AM
Jun 2015

Even if it is the only way to really save the earth for your grand children and so on.

Bryant

 

truebrit71

(20,805 posts)
9. Even though that is in reality what will happen as we stick to the same course...
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 12:39 PM
Jun 2015

...that brought us to this point...

raccoon

(31,136 posts)
4. It also has to do with the fact that first world citizens have the biggest carbon footprint.
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 11:33 AM
Jun 2015

Which is also a non-starter.

pampango

(24,692 posts)
11. Telling the poor they have to stay poor for our sake (domestically or globally) is a non-starter for
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 12:46 PM
Jun 2015

liberals. That may work for "I never have enough" conservatives who think that way with regard to our own poor but it won't work with liberals. In the West we need to minimize our carbon footprint while redistributing the income we already have - over $50,000 per capita.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
6. And yet according to DU, the guy who teaches that birth control is from the devil is a progressive
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 11:47 AM
Jun 2015

and an environmentalist so very devoted to the good of the planet that one should instantly overlook his raging bigotry against LGBT people.....

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
12. Who is this so-called progressive who thinks birth control is from the devil?
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 02:07 PM
Jun 2015

And this same progressive is a raging bigot against LGBT people?

Please tell us who that is.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
7. That's the central point of
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 11:51 AM
Jun 2015

Naomi Klein's brilliant book "This Changes Everything." And that's why the reichwingers fight effective remedies do desperately and deny it: climate change kicks the props out from under the entire neoliberal construct.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
8. Exactly. It means an end to a gravy train that needed to end anyway.
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 12:34 PM
Jun 2015

They're not only fighting it, they're grabbing as many scraps as they can, while they can.

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