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Triana

(22,666 posts)
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 02:16 PM Jun 2015

If you only read one article on #TISA/#TPP/#TISA make it this one:

The Obama administration’s desire for “fast track” trade authority is not limited to passing the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP). In fact, that may be the least important of three deals currently under negotiation by the U.S. Trade Representative. The Trans-Atlantic Trade and Investment Partnership (TTIP) would bind the two biggest economies in the world, the United States and the European Union. And the largest agreement is also the least heralded: the 51-nation Trade in Services Agreement (TiSA).

On Wednesday, WikiLeaks brought this agreement into the spotlight by releasing 17 key TiSA-related documents, including 11 full chapters under negotiation. Though the outline for this agreement has been in place for nearly a year, these documents were supposed to remain classified for five years after being signed, an example of the secrecy surrounding the agreement, which outstrips even the TPP.

TiSA has been negotiated since 2013, between the United States, the European Union, and 22 other nations, including Canada, Mexico, Australia, Israel, South Korea, Japan, Norway, Switzerland, Turkey, and others scattered across South America and Asia. Overall, 12 of the G20 nations are represented, and negotiations have carefully incorporated practically every advanced economy except for the “BRICS” coalition of emerging markets (which stands for Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa).

The deal would liberalize global trade of services, an expansive definition that encompasses air and maritime transport, package delivery, e-commerce, telecommunications, accountancy, engineering, consulting, health care, private education, financial services and more, covering close to 80 percent of the U.S. economy. Though member parties insist that the agreement would simply stop discrimination against foreign service providers, the text shows that TiSA would restrict how governments can manage their public laws through an effective regulatory cap. It could also dismantle and privatize state-owned enterprises, and turn those services over to the private sector. You begin to sound like the guy hanging out in front of the local food co-op passing around leaflets about One World Government when you talk about TiSA, but it really would clear the way for further corporate domination over sovereign countries and their citizens.


THE REST:

http://www.newrepublic.com/article/121967/whats-really-going-trade-services-agreement
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If you only read one article on #TISA/#TPP/#TISA make it this one: (Original Post) Triana Jun 2015 OP
I just finished reading it before coming back to DU. A very good article and I encourage everyone Luminous Animal Jun 2015 #1
I defy anyone to defend this horrifying shit. cali Jun 2015 #2
He will be well-rewarded for the services he is rendering to hifiguy Jun 2015 #12
as the article states, the goal of tisa is to replace gats and privatise services worldwide cali Jun 2015 #3
K & R AuntPatsy Jun 2015 #4
I'm going to kick the shit out of this cali Jun 2015 #5
everyone needs to read this. should tsa pass, your life and the lives of billions cali Jun 2015 #6
Reading this, I get the feeling that we're on the Titanic and the "trade agreements" are the iceberg nenagh Jun 2015 #7
there are lots of slowly simmering complacent idiot frogs cali Jun 2015 #19
Can all of these countries be so stupid as to support something that is bad for them? Hoyt Jun 2015 #8
You are confused. "Countries" are not equal to their 1 percenter inhabitants n/g eridani Jun 2015 #21
governments never do anything that is detrimental to their citizenry. cali Jun 2015 #23
All these countries, including Scandanavian and EU, can't be as stupid as all knowing Cali thinks. Hoyt Jun 2015 #32
Jesus Christ...... Enthusiast Jun 2015 #9
K & R AzDar Jun 2015 #10
Why would any country's leader want to do this to their people and nation? madfloridian Jun 2015 #11
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ hifiguy Jun 2015 #13
Possibly because their people support it? ucrdem Jun 2015 #18
And they know jackshit about it. cali Jun 2015 #20
No, all that Pew poll shows is that a percentage favor the concept of free trade. bluesbassman Jun 2015 #22
There is no actual verbiage. nt ucrdem Jun 2015 #25
there are leaked draft chapters cali Jun 2015 #26
Exactly. Drafts are not actual verbiage. nt ucrdem Jun 2015 #27
Aw c'mon cali... bluesbassman Jun 2015 #28
I'm so tired of the disingenuous stinking shit cali Jun 2015 #29
You and me both. bluesbassman Jun 2015 #30
Maybe it's because he has assured his children's futures Baitball Blogger Jun 2015 #35
Thanks. Bookmarked for later Populist_Prole Jun 2015 #14
K & R historylovr Jun 2015 #15
Blood boiling. Fuck "free" traitors! TheKentuckian Jun 2015 #16
And all the complacent idiots who support things out of partisanship cali Jun 2015 #24
I see it...but works in anyway. libdem4life Jun 2015 #33
fuck tisa cali Jun 2015 #17
Obama's Legacy - Writ Large cantbeserious Jun 2015 #31
k & r & thanks! n/t wildbilln864 Jun 2015 #34
Bookmarking for later. WorseBeforeBetter Jun 2015 #36

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
1. I just finished reading it before coming back to DU. A very good article and I encourage everyone
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 02:25 PM
Jun 2015

to read the entire thing.

(And yay for Wikileaks!)

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
2. I defy anyone to defend this horrifying shit.
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 02:31 PM
Jun 2015

And I wish I could say here precisely what think of Obama for shoving this toxic crap down our collective gullets. That there are people who don't find this absolutely horrifying, demonstrates just how many brainwashed little corporate lackeys there are.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
12. He will be well-rewarded for the services he is rendering to
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 05:18 PM
Jun 2015

the corporate masters. Just like the Clintons were.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
3. as the article states, the goal of tisa is to replace gats and privatise services worldwide
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 02:40 PM
Jun 2015

as well as freezing and even rolling back regulations in service area after service area. Fuck the engineers of this nightmare.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
6. everyone needs to read this. should tsa pass, your life and the lives of billions
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 02:55 PM
Jun 2015

of others will be changed, and not for the better.

nenagh

(1,925 posts)
7. Reading this, I get the feeling that we're on the Titanic and the "trade agreements" are the iceberg
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 04:30 PM
Jun 2015

Lalalalalala

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
19. there are lots of slowly simmering complacent idiot frogs
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 04:47 AM
Jun 2015

And those useful idiots will keep braying about how things are getting better. Morons

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
8. Can all of these countries be so stupid as to support something that is bad for them?
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 04:31 PM
Jun 2015

I guess it's that corporate hegemony that has brainwashed all these successful countries -- even Bernie Sanders' favorites, Scandanavian countries.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
23. governments never do anything that is detrimental to their citizenry.
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 05:02 AM
Jun 2015

At least in fantasy Hoyt world

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
32. All these countries, including Scandanavian and EU, can't be as stupid as all knowing Cali thinks.
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 07:56 AM
Jun 2015

Christ, why don't you run for office, strategic advisor, or something?

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
11. Why would any country's leader want to do this to their people and nation?
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 05:16 PM
Jun 2015

I just do not understand it.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
13. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 05:19 PM
Jun 2015

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

THAT is why.

Money doesn't talk, it swears.

bluesbassman

(19,387 posts)
22. No, all that Pew poll shows is that a percentage favor the concept of free trade.
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 04:55 AM
Jun 2015

If Pew took the actual verbiage of the TPP and created poll questions that highlighted the egregious parts of it those percentages would drop.

bluesbassman

(19,387 posts)
28. Aw c'mon cali...
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 05:11 AM
Jun 2015

we all know that those draft chapters are all going to magically change once the congress critters get to view them during the Fast Track review period!

Baitball Blogger

(46,786 posts)
35. Maybe it's because he has assured his children's futures
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 02:24 PM
Jun 2015

and has lost touch with the real pressures that young people are dealing with in the work force.

WorseBeforeBetter

(11,441 posts)
36. Bookmarking for later.
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 09:14 PM
Jun 2015

Just finished watching "Leviathan" and need LOLCats right now. Maybe LOLCats and stiff drink or three.

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