hide and watch Bernie Sanders is our next President.

He is going up against big money and he is going to be able to speak consistantly about campaign finance reform!

We have an opportunity to show the Kochs and their brethren that people power is more important than money power. If we don't stand up to the billionaire class in an election and we allow them to continue to deform our democracy by making their approval a requirement then we are already losing Democracy anyhow.

In other words, their attempts to destroy him might actually give him concrete proof of how they have been manipulating our political system.

The Kochs don't vote for all of us and we have the numbers.

can rule the country. And when more Americans wake up to the fact they are NOT on the path to being billionaires. And, when Americans might one day finally quit falling for the wedge issues that divide this country.

It is how it works. He will use legal means to campaign. If not, he has taken himself out of contention. He knows how important this is.

Second, if he doesn't use what is available, and beats Clinton, then it is a good strategy. He is currently going up against an extremely formidable opponent with deep pockets. Beat her and the strategy he is using will work. I just don't think his strategy is being honestly discussed right now. He will have a lot of pacs working on his behalf as he does now. He will also coordinate if he believes it to be legal. If he doesn't, he isn't serious about change.

Carly Fiorini are proof of that and you can go into history and find many examples of where money doesn't make might.

But as a Hillary supporter you need not worry, if she beats Bernie in the primaries.

Obamas coalition was impressive.

... had at this point in the race in both cases. And Obama eventually won! Yes, Obama ramped up his money machine later that helped him win. But I would argue that the grass roots have already dumped a lot more in the race now than Obama even had then, and it's hard to forecast how much more money he will get as time goes on and how much will be needed to get the raw numbers to win the election (which is the real important statistic).

The continuance of initial blasts of money can't be assumed in the future. It is one of the reasons entering the race in style is so important. That initial info of funds.

Bernie - you need to remember people are getting really sick of bought and sold corporate politicians. And as to $10 a piece? Many of us are planning a lot more as we go along. If it looks like he has a chance there are also people who will jump on the band wagon who have more money.

know exactly who he represents and who he will be listening to.

Somehow I don't think this will hurt him. I bet people will get very tired of those with millions of dollars to spend who are constantly annoying them with phone calls, mail and TV spots.

I think he has figured this all out perfectly.

I think it's going to be Clinton v. O'Malley. I also believe that Clinton will prevail in the primary and general.

He will be able to get more PAC money than Bernie.

The rest are corporate candidates who will do what corporations and banks want, not what is good for people. I mean actual people, not corporate ones. O'malley is not popular in his own state.

and O'Malley is still stuck at 1% after his launch.

Clinton will just get a tiny bump on her kickoff, and then will continue to decline as Clinton is revealed to be the Third Wayer she always is.

garnered support from a big chunk of the segment of the party that O'Malley is appealing too. Look, no doubt that if Hillary stumbles, he'll be the beneficiary, but right now he's in a tough spot.

I'd rather 'trust my future' in people going against money. Then there's at least some chance people will win instead of money.

I am not here to play "gotcha" games like Bernie people do.
I want to beat the repubs in 2016
Our futures depend on it.

I thought you were here to post releases from CTR.

OUCH!

I don't get the smilie posts.

nt

As a matter of fact your concern OP is noted and passed off as incoherent babble...

Ouch indeed.

I had no idea anyone would post here AND be that clueless!

I ride alone!

You will be assimilated.

No really...I do...take a look at this, does this look right?

See this isn't Bernie underground

And good thing this isn't Bernie Underground for your sake as you've, "never seen a more delusional group of people in my entire life. And mean too! The innuendo and swift boating of Hillary is disgusting. They deal in such denial and dishonesty it makes my head spin."

Bernie Underground would surely be unbearable for you.

Makes ya wonder if these folks are really HRC supporters...because they sure ain't doing her any favors with OPs like this one!

You can try to make me feel bad if you want. It happens quite a bit. This is a mean place indeed.
But I'm still here
What is the most important thing is that we don't get a repub in the White House in 2016. Bernie people will be supporting Hillary soon enough and we will be on the same team
I am sure of it
Just for the hell of it.
I am 69 years old. I am retiring soon with a pension savings and social security. I have a wife who is still working because she is 17 years younger than me. We are buying a brand new house this week. I am pretty set for life. I am in it for younger people and those less fortunate than I am.

And polls show money cannot buy a federal election, but you go on with your bad self!

"so" I guess that means I'm an even lower life form.

I refuse to believe that there isn't a chance just because we've been told there isn't any other way to win without PACs and corporate donations.

It's time to change the $$ = votes mentality. From what I've been hearing and seeing, there's no reason why it can't be done.

And join the revolution.

I don't.

Bernie Sanders 2016

Would Hillary prefer you not to trust us?

Please don't be so dismissive. Try offering constructive criticism.

Are you implying that we should instead "trust our future" to folks (i.e. the Koch brothers) who are putting up a billion dollars to elect their chosen one? Or HRC supporters who can afford to contribute more than a $10 donation? I'm honestly perplexed by your comment.

I mean, duh. Everyone knows resistance is futile.

Of all of the ugly OPs and posts I have read on DU - that is the ugliest. And most illuminating.
So - rich people should decide for the rest of us. And that is working out brilliantly. For the rich people.
Guess it is a good thing that I will not be sullying Hillary's war chest with the grubby little amounts that I can afford to give.
Thanks for being so very clear.

The Koch Brothers will be spending $889 million on this race and both Walker and/or Jeb can raise another billion dollars. I really do not see how we can compete against those resources without a candidate who raise similar amounts. I have raised this point before and so far I remain unconvinced that Sanders is viable in a general election showdow against a well funder GOP candidate. Volunteers are great but it talks money to run GOTV and national campaigns.

This election will decide the control of the SCOTUS for a generation and I do not want to see more Scalia and Alito clones on the bench. Citizens United and the gutting of the Voting Rights Act are the result of W "winning" in 2000 and I really do not want to see Roe v. Wade and the remainder of the right to privacy go away.

Again, we are in the primary process and I am happy to listen to the arguments of the parties. Right now, I simply am not convinced that Sanders will be viable against a well funded GOP candidate. Heck, I am not sure that Hillary Clinton will be raise that much money but she has a better chance than any other democrat in the field

The City of Berkeley wanted a soda tax. Big Soda poured a ton of industry money into defeating that. There was much PR and astroturfing on Big Soda's behalf.

Berkeley had a few dedicated citizens who did the legwork to get endorsements from various civic clubs, knock on doors, inform people by word of mouth. Virtually no money. Though, what probably made the difference is members of the City Council were behind it.

When it came to a vote, the citizens of Berkeley voted against Big Soda.

I think that restored some faith in people that money - and even media dominance - doesn't always determine the outcome.

Sometimes a good, old-fashioned grassroots campaign works.