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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDon’t Pay Attention To That Wisconsin Straw Poll
Like most people with at least a little taste, I prefer The Simpsons and South Park to Family Guy. Still, I couldnt help but think of this OMG who the hell cares Family Guy clip upon hearing that Hillary Clinton beat Bernie Sanders by only 49 percent to 41 percent in a straw poll conducted at the Wisconsin Democratic Convention this past weekend by WisPolitics.com.
Heres what I read into the straw poll results: A few more highly motivated Democrats in Wisconsin cast their lot with Clinton than with Sanders. Thats it. Conventions by their nature attract the truly hard-core party faithful, so this is the perfect environment for a very liberal candidate like Sanders to do well. In addition, less than 40 percent of the more than 1,300 delegates who attended the convention even voted. Were talking about a sliver of a sliver. It was in no way a random sample or even a particularly meaningful sample.
Indeed, past straw polls taken at the Wisconsin Democratic Convention and Wisconsin Republican Convention have zero correlation with who the eventual nominees are. (See below for the past six Wisconsin straw polls taken for open presidential nominations for which I could find results.)
When you look at these past results, theres just no reason to give much weight to the Democratic straw poll from last weekend. Clinton remains a prohibitive favorite for the Democratic nomination. I guess you could argue that this result shows Sanders has some support among very liberal Democrats. We already knew that, though, from public polls with random samples. The Wisconsin result told us nothing we didnt already understand about the Democratic race.
Heres what I read into the straw poll results: A few more highly motivated Democrats in Wisconsin cast their lot with Clinton than with Sanders. Thats it. Conventions by their nature attract the truly hard-core party faithful, so this is the perfect environment for a very liberal candidate like Sanders to do well. In addition, less than 40 percent of the more than 1,300 delegates who attended the convention even voted. Were talking about a sliver of a sliver. It was in no way a random sample or even a particularly meaningful sample.
Indeed, past straw polls taken at the Wisconsin Democratic Convention and Wisconsin Republican Convention have zero correlation with who the eventual nominees are. (See below for the past six Wisconsin straw polls taken for open presidential nominations for which I could find results.)
When you look at these past results, theres just no reason to give much weight to the Democratic straw poll from last weekend. Clinton remains a prohibitive favorite for the Democratic nomination. I guess you could argue that this result shows Sanders has some support among very liberal Democrats. We already knew that, though, from public polls with random samples. The Wisconsin result told us nothing we didnt already understand about the Democratic race.
http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/dont-pay-attention-to-that-wisconsin-straw-poll/
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Don’t Pay Attention To That Wisconsin Straw Poll (Original Post)
Cryptoad
Jun 2015
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leftofcool
(19,460 posts)1. Didn't Herman Cain win a straw poll in 2012?
Gothmog
(146,012 posts)2. Ask President Michele Bachmann about the importance os straw polls
DrDan
(20,411 posts)3. one word . . . . Fred Thompson and Herman Cain
cali
(114,904 posts)4. agreed. It's insignificant
dembotoz
(16,866 posts)5. Remember that groundhogs day still gets lots of coverage