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boston bean

(36,228 posts)
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 07:11 AM Jun 2015

25 Everyday Examples of Rape Culture

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In reading through feminist forums and articles online, particularly in articles about rape or sexual assault, I notice that sometimes in the comments section, people make statements about how rape culture is just a phrase that’s made up to make men look bad or to make it seem like rape is something that happens far more often than it actually does.



To understand rape culture better, first we need to understand that it’s not necessarily a society or group of people that outwardly promotes rape (although it could be).

When we talk about rape culture, we’re discussing something more implicit than that. We’re talking about cultural practices (that, yes, we commonly engage in together as a society) that excuse or otherwise tolerate sexual violence.

We’re talking about the way that we collectively think about rape.

More often than not, it’s situations in which sexual assault, rape, and general violence are ignored, trivialized, normalized, or made into jokes.


Examples:

Pop music that tells women “you know you want it” because of these “blurred lines” (of consent).

A judge who sentenced only 30 days in jail to a 50-year-old man who raped a 14-year-old girl (who later committed suicide), and defended that the girl was “older than her chronological age.”

Mothers who blame girls for posting sexy selfies and leading their sons into sin, instead of talking with their sons about their responsibility for their own sexual expression.

People who believe that girls “allow themselves to be raped.”

Journalists who substitute the word “sex” for “rape” – as if they’re the same thing.

The ubiquity of street harassment – and how victims are told that they’re “overreacting” when they call it out.

Reddit threads with titles like “You just have to make sure she’s dead” when linking to the story of a 13-year-old girl in Pakistan being raped and buried alive.

Assuming that false reporting for sexual assault cases are the norm, when in reality, they’re only 2-8%, which is on par with grand theft auto.

Only 3% of rapists ever serving a day in jail.

Women feeling less safe walking the streets at night than men do.

1-in-5 women and 1-in-71 men having reported experiencing rape.


There are hotlinks included at this link, that point you to the news stories surrounding the above listing:

http://everydayfeminism.com/2014/03/examples-of-rape-culture/
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DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
1. “older than her chronological age.”
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 07:38 AM
Jun 2015

That means that there are also cases when a man has sex with a woman that is younger than her chronological age, meaning that she's essentially a teenager, meaning that the man had sex with a minor and is a pedophile.

I wonder if that argument was ever made.

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
3. If a girl can be older than her chronological age and therefore count as a woman...
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 07:47 AM
Jun 2015

...shouldn't it be possible to make the legal argument that a woman is younger than her chronological age and should therefore count as a minor?

boston bean

(36,228 posts)
4. I'm wondering what this has to do with the judge who said a minor
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 07:53 AM
Jun 2015

was older than her chronological age to give a rapist a lighter sentence....

Can you help me out here? The point is she was a minor and the judge made an excuse in order to provide a light sentence.

Are you arguing that "older than chronological age" should be taken into consideration when sentencing? Because we don't take into consideration that "younger than chronological age" as a reason to prosecute?

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
5. I think you're misreading
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 08:01 AM
Jun 2015

if the judge actually believed that she was older than her chronological age, then he would also sometimes find adult women to be younger than their chronological age and find men guilty of rape with women 18 or older. But of course that's ridiculous. I think the poster you're replying to is calling the judge on his bullshit.

boston bean

(36,228 posts)
7. I thought that too, but I am not sure.....
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 08:04 AM
Jun 2015

the question he had was that an argument could be made one was younger than her chronological age and convict men of rape...

I'm am just wondering, because it just isn't clear... I hope the poster will come back and let us know what he means.

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
11. I've got to ring in with gollygee; I think det is showing the absurdity of the judge by
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 08:18 AM
Jun 2015

arguing the corollary.

boston bean

(36,228 posts)
12. Ok... I'm open to that, therefore the reason for my questioning.
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 08:22 AM
Jun 2015

I apologize if my questioning seemed as though I was challenging... I was really trying to get an understanding..

My mind is a bit of mush this am as it is.

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
6. I just wondered...
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 08:03 AM
Jun 2015

I just wondered if the very same people who accepted "older than her chronological age" as a valid legal argument would likewise accept "younger than her chronological age" if the trial was about sexual intercourse.

boston bean

(36,228 posts)
9. I've never heard it before unless a person is actually younger than their chronological age.
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 08:13 AM
Jun 2015

ie, an intellectually disabled/mentally challenged person.

So, no I don't think men could be put in prison for rape or pedophilia for having consensual sex with a woman over 18 with her full faculties, even if she acted younger than her age.

ETA..My apologies if my questions seemed challenging.. I was just trying to gauge the response as it wasn't clicking with me.

Take care!

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
8. I am super bothered by the "older than her chronological age" bullshit
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 08:05 AM
Jun 2015

If a young girl acts that mature, it's almost certainly because she's been raped before. So that makes it ok for her to be raped again? It's horrifying. This brings up all sorts of anger in me.

boston bean

(36,228 posts)
10. Some girls just look older than their chronological age too
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 08:15 AM
Jun 2015

leading some disgusting perverts to think it is ok to have sex with them.

I should add, that sometimes boys as well look older, leading some disgusting perverts to think it is ok to have sex with them.

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