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The Supremes will not gut Obamacare (Original Post) malaise Jun 2015 OP
I hope you are correct. What is your reason for believing this? NT Ex Lurker Jun 2015 #1
Roberts already said it was legal malaise Jun 2015 #3
The real reason ... Whiskeytide Jun 2015 #37
I agree. I think it will be 5-4 or 6-3 OKNancy Jun 2015 #2
I'm going with malaise Jun 2015 #5
That's what I am predicting for the marriage equality cases as well. hifiguy Jun 2015 #8
Those three will never disturb me - fugging right wing malaise Jun 2015 #11
You have them in a nutshell. nt Hekate Jun 2015 #24
Alito's wife and her Oscar performance? ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #28
I don't forget easily malaise Jun 2015 #30
Oh yeah! Now I remember. Thanks. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #31
One down - one to go malaise Jun 2015 #47
Scalia, Alito, Thomas mindwalker_i Jun 2015 #9
WOW, malaise. You really called it. DAYUM! calimary Jun 2015 #50
This one wasn't hard malaise Jun 2015 #54
Nailed it! Arugula Latte Jun 2015 #51
OKNancy was pretty good as well malaise Jun 2015 #55
I would agree with you. drray23 Jun 2015 #4
I'm K&Ring this in the great hope that you are correct! MoonRiver Jun 2015 #6
I hope you're right! valerief Jun 2015 #7
Not sure how I can take that to the bank gratuitous Jun 2015 #10
No - let's do Doctors without Borders malaise Jun 2015 #12
Suits me gratuitous Jun 2015 #15
Doctors without Borders it is malaise Jun 2015 #48
Ten bucks going to DWB gratuitous Jun 2015 #52
Oh Happy Day malaise Jun 2015 #53
Hope so... wcmagumba Jun 2015 #13
Welcome to DU wcmagumba! calimary Jun 2015 #19
I have been there too. brer cat Jun 2015 #21
You're so right malaise Jun 2015 #34
I'm your "twin" in this regard. Boomerproud Jun 2015 #39
Must be hard malaise Jun 2015 #41
This message was self-deleted by its author wcmagumba Jun 2015 #45
Do you really believe that? Control-Z Jun 2015 #46
You're safe -Obamacare stays malaise Jun 2015 #56
Thanks M, wcmagumba Jun 2015 #58
Then it has been a great week malaise Jun 2015 #59
Corrupt as they are, they can read the tea leaves. Xipe Totec Jun 2015 #14
LOL malaise Jun 2015 #16
Not so sure. I detect a bit of the sadist in antonin scalia. calimary Jun 2015 #20
I agree entirely, calimary. brer cat Jun 2015 #22
Will he resist the temptation? Xipe Totec Jun 2015 #23
I don't know. Trying to recall this quote about the need to kick the crap out of some little calimary Jun 2015 #44
Now we know, don't we? nt Xipe Totec Jun 2015 #49
The insurance industry would cut the GOP off at the knees if anything happens to the ACA Doctor_J Jun 2015 #17
Knees or neck malaise Jun 2015 #18
The hand wringing over this at DU has been alternately Doctor_J Jun 2015 #26
I hope that you are right Gothmog Jun 2015 #25
I think it loses. 5-4, or worse. Hope I'm wrong. cheapdate Jun 2015 #27
Whichever way it goes, CNN will get it wrong. BumRushDaShow Jun 2015 #29
ROFL malaise Jun 2015 #35
I remember monitoring the live blog feed of SCOTUSBlog BumRushDaShow Jun 2015 #38
I believe that you are correct. TexasTowelie Jun 2015 #32
Agree. They won't do anything to so thoroughly abuse red state residents. lumberjack_jeff Jun 2015 #33
Yep malaise Jun 2015 #36
Nice post, Justice Scalia. madinmaryland Jun 2015 #40
You'd better malaise Jun 2015 #42
I am kinda hoping they do gut it. cstanleytech Jun 2015 #43
You're were right! Good on ya! Cha Jun 2015 #57

Whiskeytide

(4,463 posts)
37. The real reason ...
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 08:02 PM
Jun 2015

... , however, is that it is profitable for the insurance industry and pharmaceutical industry. That's why the 57 bills to repeal the ACA suddenly stopped when the Senate went red.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
8. That's what I am predicting for the marriage equality cases as well.
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 06:26 PM
Jun 2015

The dissents from Fat Tony, Soapy Sam and Uncle Ruckus will be comedy gold, albeit rather disturbing.

malaise

(269,365 posts)
11. Those three will never disturb me - fugging right wing
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 06:30 PM
Jun 2015

tools. Never will I forget Alito's wife and her Oscar performance to distract from all the reasons why he should never have been near that court. I won't waste words on Thomas - he should be impeached. Scalia is a fascist with no understanding of separation of church and state.

malaise

(269,365 posts)
30. I don't forget easily
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 07:46 PM
Jun 2015

I watched all of it...every bit.

http://mediamatters.org/research/2009/05/19/kelly-claimed-alitos-wife-was-crying-hysterical/150302

Megyn Kelly claimed that during Justice Samuel Alito's confirmation hearing, his wife, Martha-Ann, was "crying hysterically after Ted Kennedy made her cry." In fact, Martha-Ann Alito broke down in tears during a series of questions and comments by Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham.

malaise

(269,365 posts)
54. This one wasn't hard
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 07:30 PM
Jun 2015

Roberts would have looked like an idiot to vote against Obamacare after the Constitutional vote on it.
Those three tools are a given

drray23

(7,638 posts)
4. I would agree with you.
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 06:20 PM
Jun 2015

Since Roberts stuck his neck out the first time to rescue the ACA from being gutted over the argument about whether the fees were fees or taxes.

There is still a possibility however, which would be bad, that they say, well, its fine as it is but please have congress pass a law to clarify the intent. Of course, with the teabaggers in the house, it will never happen so that would torpedo the ACA and the supreme court could wash their hands of it.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
6. I'm K&Ring this in the great hope that you are correct!
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 06:24 PM
Jun 2015

We don't get our insurance through the ACA, but it's been a life saver for so many.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
10. Not sure how I can take that to the bank
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 06:30 PM
Jun 2015

But how about this: A $10 donation to DU? If the Supremes don't say "The card says 'Moops'!", I'll send $10 to DU. If the Supremes decide once again to join the Republicans in destroying the country, you send DU ten bucks.

Deal?

On edit: I will be very glad to lose this bet.

wcmagumba

(2,893 posts)
13. Hope so...
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 06:32 PM
Jun 2015

I'm pushing 60 and went without insurance due to jobs with no benefits and pre-existing conditions and low income for nearly 7 years...have decent insurance now through the Federal Exchange but could not afford it without the subsidy. Like someone said a few years back, the Republican health plan is: if you get sick, die fast....

calimary

(81,612 posts)
19. Welcome to DU wcmagumba!
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 06:55 PM
Jun 2015

Glad you're here. We're all gritting our teeth and crossing our fingers. I can't believe they'd decide to strip millions of Americans from health insurance they can FINALLY afford. I can't believe they'd do that. But they've sure done plenty of other bad moves in their day. If Katie Couric or some other network interviewer ever asked me what high court ruling I ever disagreed with, I'd have to start with - "got a few minutes?"

brer cat

(24,673 posts)
21. I have been there too.
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 06:57 PM
Jun 2015

Doing without medical treatment is a get sick, die fast plan, but when uninsured, many of us fall into that. I am now on medicare and wish it was available to everyone.

Boomerproud

(7,987 posts)
39. I'm your "twin" in this regard.
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 08:55 PM
Jun 2015

59, temp worker (after being downsized out of the middle class) and refused coverage because of Type II diabetes. After reading some of the posts who agree with the OP because the Supremes believe gutting the ACA will hurt the Repubs I see their point. I can only hope they're right-we all know they wouldn't just instinctively do the right thing. There's a lot of us in the the same boat-I just pray it isn't the Titantic. I was thinking about this today at work and someone asked me if something was wrong. I just shook my head because I feel so powerless.

Response to wcmagumba (Reply #13)

Xipe Totec

(43,893 posts)
14. Corrupt as they are, they can read the tea leaves.
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 06:40 PM
Jun 2015

They won't do anything to throw the 2016 elections in Democrat's favor.

calimary

(81,612 posts)
20. Not so sure. I detect a bit of the sadist in antonin scalia.
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 06:57 PM
Jun 2015

I think he actually relishes having power over people, and having the ability to screw people from time to time just to show 'em who's boss.

calimary

(81,612 posts)
44. I don't know. Trying to recall this quote about the need to kick the crap out of some little
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 09:47 PM
Jun 2015

"piece-of-shit country" - I think this was in reference to reagan's ridiculous crusade in Grenada. More like a charade in Grenada, almost. But it was a quote from someone talking defense policy at a fairly high level of stature - and extolling the foreign policy strategy of kicking the crap out of some little pipsqueak "piece of shit" country, I think was the term used. The reason for this? To show off the balls of the U.S. Remind everybody who's boss. Strut our national stuff and shove that "American Exceptionalism" crap down their throats. Declare "Mine's BIGGER." "WE'RE Number One!" Go ahead and swagger and be arrogant. After all, we're entitled!!

Now, I do NOT think that's the world's greatest method for making friends and influencing people!

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
17. The insurance industry would cut the GOP off at the knees if anything happens to the ACA
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 06:47 PM
Jun 2015

PHARMA too. I predicted a year ago when all of the nervous types around here were sure it was going to be repealed or cut off by SCOTUS. Remember who these people work for.

cheapdate

(3,811 posts)
27. I think it loses. 5-4, or worse. Hope I'm wrong.
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 07:26 PM
Jun 2015

The language in the state exchange provision was crystal clear. I can't see any of the conservatives arguing otherwise. On the other hand, the results would be so catastrophically awful for so many people...maybe one of them will do what's morally right instead of what's technically right.

BumRushDaShow

(130,139 posts)
38. I remember monitoring the live blog feed of SCOTUSBlog
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 08:03 PM
Jun 2015

and then brought the CNN site up to check for their breaking headline and saw that version. I was like WTF? That's not what the SCOTUSBlog lawyers are saying....

TexasTowelie

(112,755 posts)
32. I believe that you are correct.
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 07:47 PM
Jun 2015

The insurance companies are making too much money on their new customer base.

 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
33. Agree. They won't do anything to so thoroughly abuse red state residents.
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 07:49 PM
Jun 2015

They're Republicans first and foremost.

madinmaryland

(64,934 posts)
40. Nice post, Justice Scalia.
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 08:58 PM
Jun 2015

Seriesly, this is Hugh!! I need to call my congresscritter RIGHT FUCKING NOW!!!

cstanleytech

(26,368 posts)
43. I am kinda hoping they do gut it.
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 09:30 PM
Jun 2015

After all its not every day you get conservative judges willing to shoot their own political party in the head just before a major election.

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