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n2doc

(47,953 posts)
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 12:00 PM Jun 2015

Chris Christie Suggests College Students Should Sell Themselves To Investors To Pay Tuition

New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie (R) spoke about student debt, school choice and teacher accountability at Iowa State University in Ames, Iowa, on Thursday. Christie is expected to announce a presidential run soon.

After delivering an account of how his father, an excellent student who was accepted at Columbia University, enlisted in the Army instead because he couldn’t afford the tuition, Christie said debt-free college was not the answer.

Christie said students shouldn’t expect to receive a degree that will significantly improve their earnings for nothing, but he mixed more conservative rhetoric with an acknowledgement that students should be able to receive some assistance.

He cited his father’s choice to attend Rutgers University, where he earned a bachelor’s degree in accounting after six years of both attending school and continuing to work, as the reason his father was able to get a career working on Wall Street for 40 years. Christie’s father attended through the G.I. bill.

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http://thinkprogress.org/education/2015/06/11/3668713/chris-christie-makes-college-affordability-priority-iowa-speech/

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Chris Christie Suggests College Students Should Sell Themselves To Investors To Pay Tuition (Original Post) n2doc Jun 2015 OP
ie, 'Get a Job, you hippie!' Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2015 #1
The GOP devaluation of education and intellect is probably the number one reason, of many, why I hate them. Fred Sanders Jun 2015 #2
Just a fancier term for indentured servitude, peonage or debt bondage: The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2015 #3
You make it sound so dirty and immoral. Probably because it is. marble falls Jun 2015 #4
How much was tuition when Christie's father was young? AndreaCG Jun 2015 #5
The beauty in this is - JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #6
"It's what I do" the governor said. JHB Jun 2015 #7
So now the idiot is advocating slavery. Avalux Jun 2015 #8
That is called slavery, or indentures servants. Not a great idea Governor. nt ladjf Jun 2015 #9
Here's the way this scheme would work. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2015 #10

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
1. ie, 'Get a Job, you hippie!'
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 12:06 PM
Jun 2015

Cause let's face it, that's what a job is, selling yourself, your time, your effort.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
2. The GOP devaluation of education and intellect is probably the number one reason, of many, why I hate them.
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 12:08 PM
Jun 2015

I blame their jealously for their hate.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(116,021 posts)
3. Just a fancier term for indentured servitude, peonage or debt bondage:
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 12:10 PM
Jun 2015
Christie also mentioned income share agreements, which allow students to essentially issue stock in themselves. It allows people to invest in college students, or to “own human capital contracts,” which means that an investor could pay a portion of the student’s tuition to attend college in exchange for that student giving the investor a certain percentage of their income for so many years.


Debt bondage (also known as debt slavery or bonded labor) is a person's pledge of their labor or services as security for the repayment for a debt or other obligation. The services required to repay the debt may be undefined, and the services' duration may be undefined. Debt bondage can be passed on from generation to generation.

Debt bondage has been described by the United Nations as a form of "modern day slavery" and the Supplementary Convention on the Abolition of Slavery seeks to abolish the practice. Most countries are parties to the Convention, but the practice is still prevalent in South Asia. Debt bondage in India was legally abolished in 1976 but remains prevalent.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debt_bondage

Figures a GOPer would come up with something like that.



AndreaCG

(2,331 posts)
5. How much was tuition when Christie's father was young?
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 12:13 PM
Jun 2015

Even at Columbia, not much I bet. If he was single he could have worked and gone to school. If he was already married that's a different story. I bet Christie isn't telling us the whole story.

JustAnotherGen

(32,053 posts)
6. The beauty in this is -
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 12:14 PM
Jun 2015

He can't win his home state of NJ.

He can't - not in the primary - and certainly not as a V.P. in a G.E.

The more he plays to the IndieTeaPublicans in Texas - the more he shoots himself in the North East.

He's not well thought of here - and I believe there MANY republicans around me who totally regret voting for him.

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
8. So now the idiot is advocating slavery.
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 12:25 PM
Jun 2015

Which is exactly what he and his idiot buddies want. If their twisted minds, if we make public college free, young people will end up depraved and ungrateful slobs.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(116,021 posts)
10. Here's the way this scheme would work.
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 01:49 PM
Jun 2015

Joe Jones, a bright college student without much money, sells stock in his "human capital" to a corporate investor, and the investor pays his tuition. Joe graduates but can't find a decent job in his field; he ends up flipping burgers at McDonalds to (barely) support himself. The investor, unhappy at the return (dividend?) this "stock" is paying, offers Joe a job in his field, but the catch is that most of Joe's salary will be kept by the corporation/employer that owns Joe's stock. Joe nets only what he was making in the fast food business, so the corporate investor gets the benefit of his labor for almost nothing. But the investor still isn't making all that much off Joe and the other "human capital" stocks it owns, so it sells the stock to an investment bank, which in turn bundles them in tranches and sells them to other investors, just like those subprime mortgages that caused a little commotion not too long ago. Meanwhile Joe continues to labor for almost nothing until the value of his tuition loan is paid up - maybe in 10 or 20 years. If he leaves for a better job, he still owes the debt.

Great idea.

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