...and our last chance was in the House.

I'm getting a little confused on the process, and I'm also seriously ill right now, so I need some guidance.

cali

(114,904 posts)

28. it has to be reconciled with the Senate version- and

Reply to rbnyc (Reply #15)

Fri Jun 12, 2015, 02:46 PM

Jun 2015

thanks for the kind words

rbnyc

(17,045 posts)

36. THIS HELPED

Reply to rbnyc (Reply #15)

Fri Jun 12, 2015, 03:38 PM

Jun 2015

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/13/us/politics/obamas-trade-bills-face-tough-battle-against-house-democrats.html?_r=0

I get it now.

I was really confused.

neverforget

(9,437 posts)

3. But the package deal failed. All 3 bills had to pass but the TAA was defeated.

Reply to Thinkingabout (Original post)

Fri Jun 12, 2015, 02:21 PM

Jun 2015

Looks like there will be a revote next week

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)

5. Interesting this contained a job retraining program.

Reply to neverforget (Reply #3)

Fri Jun 12, 2015, 02:23 PM

Jun 2015

think

(11,641 posts)

14. Well of course. The TPP will guarantee Americans lose jobs....

Reply to Thinkingabout (Reply #5)

Fri Jun 12, 2015, 02:29 PM

Jun 2015

cali

(114,904 posts)

21. that's what most dems voted against in order to slow things down

Reply to Thinkingabout (Reply #5)

Fri Jun 12, 2015, 02:32 PM

Jun 2015

This vote was a huge repudiation of the President's trade agenda. He was only able to line up 12 votes.

LondonReign2

(5,213 posts)

34. The TPA doesn't need a job retraining program!

Reply to Thinkingabout (Reply #5)

Fri Jun 12, 2015, 03:14 PM

Jun 2015

This TPA will rain down millions of jobs on Americans, or so I am told by the supporters. So obviously it doesn't need a jobs retraining program.

Proud Public Servant

(2,097 posts)

4. Not really

Reply to Thinkingabout (Original post)

Fri Jun 12, 2015, 02:22 PM

Jun 2015

The vote was symbolic, basically. Without TAA, TPA can't go anywhere.

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)

8. It goes back to the Senate since it was revised with the TAA taken out..

Reply to Proud Public Servant (Reply #4)

Fri Jun 12, 2015, 02:27 PM

Jun 2015

... and hopefully we have some STUPID Democrats that become UNSTUPID, and vote against it!

Not sure if it can still be filibustered there. Can it?

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)

12. It would have passed without any Democrat votes.

Reply to cascadiance (Reply #8)

Fri Jun 12, 2015, 02:28 PM

Jun 2015

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)

20. Ah yes, the "might as well give up to the republicans, they'll take it anyway" argument

Reply to Thinkingabout (Reply #12)

Fri Jun 12, 2015, 02:31 PM

Jun 2015

Marr

(20,317 posts)

35. Obama's trade policy can pass with nothing but REPUBLICAN support?

Reply to Thinkingabout (Reply #12)

Fri Jun 12, 2015, 03:20 PM

Jun 2015

That doesn't bother you at all, huh? Doesn't suggest anything?

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)

37. Hey, don't get snarky, this us a fact.

Reply to Marr (Reply #35)

Fri Jun 12, 2015, 03:53 PM

Jun 2015

Proud Public Servant

(2,097 posts)

13. No way the Senate takes out TAA

Reply to cascadiance (Reply #8)

Fri Jun 12, 2015, 02:28 PM

Jun 2015

That would be political suicide in 2016

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)

10. So the first blow was dealt to TPA,

Reply to Proud Public Servant (Reply #4)

Fri Jun 12, 2015, 02:27 PM

Jun 2015

but the monster is not quite dead yet.

rbnyc

(17,045 posts)

6. So what the fuck do we do now?

Reply to Thinkingabout (Original post)

Fri Jun 12, 2015, 02:25 PM

Jun 2015

I don't think I've ever felt so hopeless and so betrayed in my whole goddamned life.

cali

(114,904 posts)

11. we keep applying pressure. that only 12 dems voted for it is a good sign

Reply to rbnyc (Reply #6)

Fri Jun 12, 2015, 02:27 PM

Jun 2015

rbnyc

(17,045 posts)

18. ok

Reply to cali (Reply #11)

Fri Jun 12, 2015, 02:30 PM

Jun 2015

I had two hours of sleep because I'm very sick. So I'm not in top form.

Thank you.

marym625

(17,997 posts)

19. If I understand it correctly,

Reply to cali (Reply #11)

Fri Jun 12, 2015, 02:31 PM

Jun 2015

The TAA will be voted on again in the house next week, right? Or does it go to the Senate now?

cali

(114,904 posts)

24. Boehner will try to get the vote on

Reply to marym625 (Reply #19)

Fri Jun 12, 2015, 02:41 PM

Jun 2015

his side. Hoyer and the WH will whip votes. I can't imagine Boehner scheduling a vote unless he's sure it will pass.

marym625

(17,997 posts)

25. so not today anyway?

Reply to cali (Reply #24)

Fri Jun 12, 2015, 02:43 PM

Jun 2015

Not gonna lie, they're not being very clear and I am confused

Haven't seen so many incorrect headlines, ever.

cali

(114,904 posts)

29. I cannot imagine it will be today, but who knows?

Reply to marym625 (Reply #25)

Fri Jun 12, 2015, 02:48 PM

Jun 2015

marym625

(17,997 posts)

30. bizarre! Thank you!

Reply to cali (Reply #29)

Fri Jun 12, 2015, 02:50 PM

Jun 2015

daredtowork

(3,732 posts)

32. So the optics for 2016 is...

Reply to cali (Reply #11)

Fri Jun 12, 2015, 02:55 PM

Jun 2015

Dems supported it (if it's good) and backed the President...

but Dems tried not to (if it turns out to be a disaster).

Wishywashy, dudes. And I don't think anyone buys that kind of theater anymore.

Broward

(1,976 posts)

9. Obama is firmly with most Republicans.

Reply to Thinkingabout (Original post)

Fri Jun 12, 2015, 02:27 PM

Jun 2015

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)

16. This vote will probably be very close to the TPP vote final.

Reply to Broward (Reply #9)

Fri Jun 12, 2015, 02:29 PM

Jun 2015

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)

23. Yes and it was close too -- 219-211.

Reply to Thinkingabout (Original post)

Fri Jun 12, 2015, 02:35 PM

Jun 2015

So there's more work to do before next week's revote on TAA but I honestly think this is great news for Obama, for all Americans, and for Dems in 2016. Would have been a huge problem otherwise.

cali

(114,904 posts)

27. this was a huge repudiation on the part of dems of his trade agenda

Reply to ucrdem (Reply #23)

Fri Jun 12, 2015, 02:45 PM

Jun 2015

Only 12 yea dem votes on the TPA. He may well get it, but time is not his friend here. And politically, if it does pass, it's without doubt more of a problem.