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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHRC BREAKS TRADE SILENCE: LISTEN TO PELOSI!
"The president should listen to and work with his allies in Congress, starting with Nancy Pelosi," Clinton said while speaking at a rally in Iowa.
Pelosi took to the House floor Friday to oppose trade legislation Obama had personally lobbied for on Capitol Hill earlier that day.
We have an opportunity to slow down, Pelosi said. Whatever the deal is with other countries, we want a better deal for Americas workers.
Clinton encouraged lawmakers to work together to "make sure we get the best, strongest deal possible."
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/14/hillary-clinton-trade-deal_n_7580768.html
While not an all out refusal, it certainly doesn't seem she has the same zeal for going full steam ahead as the President does.
sendero
(28,552 posts)... words don't work for me. We don't need anything about this deal at all.
mvd
(65,187 posts)orpupilofnature57
(15,472 posts)letting the 1% get away with murder, Business as usual .
sendero
(28,552 posts).. I've seen this movie before.
And I think after a while congresspersons get used to living in a world where big business always gets what it wants, it's only a matter of how many crumbs they have to toss in first.
glinda
(14,807 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)either. As many people said yesterday, we've seen this game before, the 'rotating villains' game.
They will be back and pushing it hard. And next time there will be a seemingly conciliatory note on one thing.
THEN Pelosi will vote for it, and Hillary probably knows this.
If she has no opinion of her own, but points to Pelosi, that isn't leadership, that's the action of a follower.
djean111
(14,255 posts)corporate coup will be rammed through. Getting rid of the Medicare funding in the TAA will be the K-Y Jelly.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)they really do think we are fools. As promised by millions now, anyone who votes for this abomination will find themselves facing huge opposition AND a Progressive challenger next time they run.
We MUST remove from Congress and especially our party. those who have made it possible to plunge this country into corporate cesspool it has become and I think that is going to begin in 2016.
orpupilofnature57
(15,472 posts)Their history is always telling us, they'll tell us in the future, then when it gets here it's too late to do anything about everything they've let happen, I'm talking about Hillary & Nancy when I say them .
NewSystemNeeded
(111 posts)Yes and no is the Schrödinger's cat approach to politics.
orpupilofnature57
(15,472 posts)She really like a weather vane go lmao
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)She has two opponents who are not fence sitting.
99Forever
(14,524 posts)cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)4139
(1,893 posts)She said it very forcefully!!!! It was not just something said in passing.
A good step in the right direction
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)cave when it's brought back again, which it will. A tiny concession will be made, nothing significant, and Nancy will jump on board telling Dems they need to join her. We've seen this game before.
All this was was a response to the incredible public pressure that made Dems have to choose between holding onto to their seats, or delaying this. Happened before, we saw the results of the last delay, due to public pressure.
She should NOT be telling to 'look at Nancy' that makes her seem like a follower for one thing, she should be doing what Sanders is doing, spelling out WHY this will be a disaster for the American people.
Nearly 100% of the people do not want this. IS THIS A DEMOCRACY OR NOT. And someone asking for the job of POTUS should be responding to the PEOPLE.
Sick to death of their games frankly, they really do think we are stupid.
glinda
(14,807 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)Yet, previously as secretary of state, Clinton called the Trans-Pacific Partnership the "gold standard in trade agreements." In her second memoir, Hard Choices, released in 2014, Clinton lauded the deal, saying it "would link markets throughout Asia and the americas, lowering trade barriers while raising standards on labor, the environment, and intellectual property." She even said it was "important for American workers, who would benefit from competing on a more level playing field." She also called it "a strategic initiative that would strengthen the position of the United States in Asia."
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http://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolitics/2015/04/21/401123124/a-timeline-of-hillary-clintons-evolution-on-trade
cali
(114,904 posts)just last fall. How stupid does she think we are?
Here:
Yet, previously as secretary of state, Clinton called the Trans-Pacific Partnership the "gold standard in trade agreements." In her second memoir, Hard Choices, released in 2014, Clinton lauded the deal, saying it "would link markets throughout Asia and the americas, lowering trade barriers while raising standards on labor, the environment, and intellectual property." She even said it was "important for American workers, who would benefit from competing on a more level playing field." She also called it "a strategic initiative that would strengthen the position of the United States in Asia."
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http://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolitics/2015/04/21/401123124/a-timeline-of-hillary-clintons-evolution-on-trade
JEB
(4,748 posts)cooked up by corporate interests.
djean111
(14,255 posts)sadoldgirl
(3,431 posts)HRC feels the Bern in her back, that is all.
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)Saying he should work toward the best and strongest deal possible is neither an endorsement nor a condemnation of the TPP. No matter how things turn out, she can point to this statement and claim to have been right.
It really is sad that some people are so desperate to bring the fictional version of Hillary (which exists only in their imaginations) to life that they need to present this non statement as somehow taking a stand.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)ananda
(28,914 posts)It's just that I'm not sure where Pelosi's actual vote will fall
nor exactly what for.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)probably only put there so they COULD look like they were responding to public pressure, and then she will vote for the whole rotten package.
No thanks, they STILL think we are blind, that we haven't watched this game before, multiple times.
So telling us to look at Nancy is saying that she supports the TPP.
At least we finally got an answer.
Indepatriot
(1,253 posts)I bet her handlers at Goldman Sachs have been working on this for weeks! Now that I know she really, truly, cross-her heart and hope to die is a FIGHTER for the Middle Class, I can abandon the socialist, what's his name again?, and ride the Hillary Train to Third Way Junction!
joshcryer
(62,287 posts)She will come out in support of it.
Nite Owl
(11,303 posts)'the best, strongest deal possible' what happens? Does she want to go along with whatever it is or just say no? Still isn't very clear.
djean111
(14,255 posts)Agony
(2,605 posts)Lloyd Blankfein? or Main Street? answer the damn question, Hillary!
you are so right, not at all clear.
#weaselwords #dissapointedindemocrats
Nite Owl
(11,303 posts)has more holes than swiss cheese. It's so simple: yes or no
And people buy this!
Fuddnik
(8,846 posts)So should Hillary.
BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)"Any health bill 'without a strong public option will not pass the House,' Nancy Pelosi says.
"Nowhere has there been a bigger gap in the perceptions of compromise and the reality of compromise than in the health care bill," Obama said. "But I didn't campaign on a public option. I think it is a good idea. But as I said in that speech on Sept. 9 (on health care), it is just one small element of a broader reform effort. And so we don't feel that the core elements to help the American people that I campaigned on and that we've been fighting for all year have been compromised in any significant way."
Open up wide, Proles!