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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHow the government tipped their hand against Snowden and proved they are lying
http://news.yahoo.com/union-says-federal-workers-fell-victim-hackers-071851098--politics.html
How did his laptop have current information on it?
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)I don't buy it but do try to imagine a way to be true like they had to be on his computer too hacking I imagine to see a hacker carrying a Russia flag next to one with the China flag show up take it and then say aha.
Oh never mind I'm confusing that with this. I don't think this is the laptop one. For this one, I want to know what the evidence is of hackers linked to China -- linked now, how?
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)He is not an idiot.
hack89
(39,171 posts)he is no genius either.
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)Glad you concur that this latest smear is bullshit and a charade to divert away from yet another security state failure.
randome
(34,845 posts)[hr][font color="blue"][center]All things in moderation, including moderation.[/center][/font][hr]
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)slap something to the side, put the blanket over his head, do something and the computer and give it back to them so the giving the files back to Greenwald. I don't know if for fact if he deleted them or not but BBC didn't show me any evidence either plus the meeting with the diplomat was filmed. The diplomat mentioning something unaware of a precedent that applied to his case. There wasn't, I think Iceland was his first option but China didn't want to be involved in a dispute with the US but if he had files they wanted there is certainly a quid pro quo opportunity. Plus a Western Europe country wouldn't take him even if they wanted to because the US would hit them with sanctions til they let him go.
hack89
(39,171 posts)Mr. Snowden said he gave all of the classified documents he had obtained to journalists he met in Hong Kong, before flying to Moscow, and did not keep any copies for himself. He did not take the files to Russia because it wouldnt serve the public interest, he said.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/18/world/snowden-says-he-took-no-secret-files-to-russia.html?smid=tw-share&_r=0
And if he did not have access to the documents in HK, how was he able to leak information after parting ways with Greenwald, Poitras, and MacAskill? He leaked the information on the IP addresses two days after he went public and the journalists no longer had contact with him.
It is not the crystal clear situation you want to believe.
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)He made clear, in fact there is video of him giving the files to Greenwald.
hack89
(39,171 posts)JonLP24
(29,322 posts)I remember clearly what was in the recent Greenwald article.
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)but I said I was trying to picture it. I like to play out possibilities sometimes, helps me figure out the likelihood of a claim. These are the problems I have with it 1)Says he didn't take them 2)Strange they're saying his files were hacked 3)they already know who did the hack.
It was yesterday I posted his over 145 score on an IQ test and Mensa nominating him for the IQ award. Never saw him to be an idiot (remarkable how many make that claim though).
Dr Hobbitstein
(6,568 posts)states that Edward Snowden's laptop was hacked. Matter of fact, the ONLY mention of Snowden was criticism of the GOVERNMENT not being able to secure it's data 2 years after Snowden stole a bunch of sensitive information.
Not sure how this hack has anything to do with Snowden, nor the government trying to lie about him.
Exilednight
(9,359 posts)Reported that his laptop was decrypted by Chinese and Russian cryptologist.
ellie50
(31 posts)>The four laptops NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden took with him when he fled America for Hong Kong were nothing but a diversion, according to an ex-CIA official who met Snowden in Russia last week.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/10/14/snowden_decoy_laptops_russia_china/
Exilednight
(9,359 posts)Supposedly pulling out all of its agents.
The story reeks of coverup.
Dr Hobbitstein
(6,568 posts)This story is about a hack on govt servers by Chinese hackers and the data they took involving personal info of Govt employees. Nothing to do with Snowden or data he took.
The other story is about Chinese and Russian hackers DECRYPTING Snowden's treasure trove of info, which had information about Mi6 spies, and how they operate (according the the BBC). There is nothing about hacking Snowden's laptop, just that they unencrypted the data that he had given to Greenwald, et al.
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-33125068
The stories are not related.