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bigtree

(86,024 posts) Mon Jun 15, 2015, 04:18 PM Jun 2015

O'Malley Campaign to Hillary: TPP, Fast-Track More Than a 'Process Issue'

from Politico:

After delivering a version of her standard stump speech in Concord, Clinton held a rare 18-minute news conference...

“The TPA is a process issue. The issue for me is what’s in the deal” she said. “I think this is a chance to use this leverage so that the deal does become one that more Americans and members of Congress can vote for.”

Matt Corridoni ?@mattcorridoni
Statement from @Lis_Smith on the need for #Leadership - not question dodging. #Omalley2016

Martin O'Malley ?@GovernorOMalley
For the thousands whose jobs are on the line with TPP, fast track is not a 'process' issue: it’s a vote on their future & their livelihood.

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O'Malley Campaign to Hillary: TPP, Fast-Track More Than a 'Process Issue' (Original Post) bigtree Jun 2015 OP

K & R. n/t FSogol Jun 2015 #1

kick bigtree Jun 2015 #2

kick bigtree Jun 2015 #3

Fast track IS a process issue. So is voter suppression. Jim Lane Jun 2015 #4

good points bigtree Jun 2015 #6

I'm glad that O'Malley is talking about this Art_from_Ark Jun 2015 #5

so glad he's speaking out but I wish they'd all stop cali Jun 2015 #7

I agree bigtree Jun 2015 #8

what you said. but I guess part of the problem is that what you said is quite a mouthful cali Jun 2015 #9

TPP provisions enable corporate profits over people's rights bigtree Jun 2015 #10

Excellent, bigtree! cali Jun 2015 #11

Exactly Art_from_Ark Jun 2015 #12

FSogol

(45,598 posts)

1. K & R. n/t

Reply to bigtree (Original post)

Mon Jun 15, 2015, 04:23 PM

Jun 2015

bigtree

(86,024 posts)

2. kick

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Mon Jun 15, 2015, 05:00 PM

Jun 2015

bigtree

(86,024 posts)

3. kick

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Mon Jun 15, 2015, 08:55 PM

Jun 2015

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)

4. Fast track IS a process issue. So is voter suppression.

Reply to bigtree (Original post)

Tue Jun 16, 2015, 02:23 AM

Jun 2015

Clinton made a big deal about calling for automatic voter registration and at least 20 days of early in-person voting.

Those are good ideas. I agree with her. But they're process issues.

Last week her position was that process issues are important. Now she finds it convenient to dismiss them: "The TPA is a process issue. The issue for me is what’s in the deal." This is like saying: "Voting rights is a process issue. The issue for me is who wins the election." The whole point of focusing on process is that it can often have a decisive impact on the substantive outcome. Voter suppression is one such instance. Trade policy is another.

bigtree

(86,024 posts)

6. good points

Reply to Jim Lane (Reply #4)

Tue Jun 16, 2015, 08:05 AM

Jun 2015

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)

5. I'm glad that O'Malley is talking about this

Reply to bigtree (Original post)

Tue Jun 16, 2015, 02:32 AM

Jun 2015

The lives and liveilhoods of average citizens are on the line.

cali

(114,904 posts)

7. so glad he's speaking out but I wish they'd all stop

Reply to bigtree (Original post)

Tue Jun 16, 2015, 08:11 AM

Jun 2015

being so narrow in the references to what's wrong with the TPP. And that includes Bernie. What's wrong is a lot more than job losses here. And the crux of the matter is concentrating more power and "rights" with corporations.

bigtree

(86,024 posts)

8. I agree

Reply to cali (Reply #7)

Tue Jun 16, 2015, 08:41 AM

Jun 2015

...the President's appeal is centered on assuaging concerns about jobs, when the most destructive aspect of the pact is the precedence given to corporations' profits over regulations and laws pertaining to the environment, food safety, health, energy, climate change and pollution...establishing a tribunal which would trump courts and stifle lawsuits defending the above prerogatives in favor of commerce.