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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsJust heard Tweety and Michael Steele discussing the RNC telling
the donald thanks but no thanks. Joan Walsh was on also and was aghast at Trump's egoist remarks...She says he is dangerous, I agree.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)I said as much. He cannot be underestimated since he alone has the money to finance the campaign on his own.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)a nasty, egotistical dumbass of world class proportions. Will Rogers never met The Dumpster.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)I would not.
I will not expand on my reasons... but I would not.
LordGlenconner
(1,348 posts)He's a carnival barker. That's it.
Let's see if he's actually still in the race when the votes start getting counted. I have my doubts.
And his money won't buy it for him. Nelson Rockafeller, Ross Perot, Pete DuPont, Steve Forbes and Willard Romney all had access to piles of money and couldn't get it done.
Im sure if you wanted to go back beyond the 70s there would be others.
they all threw away their money. Don Don will be no different.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)I know and understand enough of US History to know why he cannot be under estimated. He is not a carnival barker, he falls in a very specific U.S populist tradition that should never be under estimated.
I will leave it at that. I do not do much analysis here anymore. Suffice it to say, Joan Walsh understands that tradition as well. She is also far more of a partisan than I am as well.
LordGlenconner
(1,348 posts)And he's not going to be President.
Feel free to bookmark. I know I will.
If you view his candidacy with any level of seriousness I'm not sure your analysis is something I'm terribly interested in anyway.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)please do refrain from inserting words into my mouth.
Thank you.
LordGlenconner
(1,348 posts)Look, you think he's a serious candidate for their nomination or you don't. No need to be so mysterious about it.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)on DU, period, end of discussion, period, we are done.
Have an excellent day.
It is not my interest to expand HERE on those thoughts.
LordGlenconner
(1,348 posts)Frankly it's probably not very interesting anyway.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)I simply do not do that here any more. And people who know me OUTSIDE of DU find it interesting. Here. some folks made sure I don't care to do it any longer.
Though I do agree with Joan Walsh, she gets it. And lord knows she is coming from a far more partisan place than I am.
LordGlenconner
(1,348 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,719 posts)So Trump sits on a ton of dough...
David Ogilvy, the father of modern advertising wrote that the best way to kill an inferior product is to advertise it because people will buy it, learn it's defective,and never buy it again...
If he's a danger to anybody he's a danger to Republicans.
And the reason the populist movements of the nineteenth century died is because at the end of the day race trumped class...
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)suffice it to say, he is not precisely in Wallace's tradition.
And that is as far as I intend to go with this on this site.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,719 posts)There is no scenario where he gets the nomination and gets a plurality or majority of the votes necessary to get 270 Electoral College Votes...Even Ross Perot didn't get one Electoral College vote and for all his idiosyncrasies he looks absolutely staid next to Donald Trump...
Donald Trump poses a mortal danger, to the GOP.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)'bout a nomination. Please do proceed governor... this is reason umpty squat why I no longer discuss anything of substance here.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,719 posts)So he gives a voice to nativist sentiment...Nativists have been with us since the beginning of the republic.
First it was the Chinese then the Irish then the italians then the Jews and now Latinos.
And the beauty of this nation is they are all now accepted, for the most part, as Americans.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)I am beyond done. I do not know how many times you have to be told I have zero interest to discuss this beyond agreeing with Joan Walsh, as far as DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND is concerned.
Have the last word and an excellent day.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,719 posts)So he follows in the footsteps of demagogues like Father Coughlin, Strom Thurmond, and George Wallace. None of those clowns sniffed the presidency...
There's nothing enigmatic, cryptic, or mysterious about him or his appeal other than he is loaded and consequently has a megaphone to air his reactionary views.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,719 posts)At least Nelson Rockefeller, Ross Perot, Pete DuPont, Steve Forbes and Willard Romney came off as serious men...
LordGlenconner
(1,348 posts)He'd be better off if he had $9 billion, was a relative unknown and didn't have such an absurdly grating personality.
Most republicans I know like him a lot but want to win so badly they'd never consider voting for him as their party's nominee.
That's one of the reason those speaking about him on this thread in hushed tones like he's some kind of threat to democracy are so easy to laugh at.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,719 posts)He will tarnish every Republican who shares the dais with him on a debate stage.
As a stalwart Democrat and a Christian I am going to thank God for the gift he has given us.
demosincebirth
(12,554 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,719 posts)Can you imagine any Democrat voting for him ?
Whatever he gets will come right out of the Republican's hide.
randys1
(16,286 posts)is a genius and would make a great president.
I am not kidding
I would love to see him get the nomination, but he doesnt want it, he is doing this for the publicity.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)But she's catching hell for it
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,719 posts)You don't get to be second in your class at Wharton by being a dummy.
randys1
(16,286 posts)In his case, Trump, I think you are right.
But he is such a greedy piece of shit, and what pisses me off isnt what he is, I expect him to be that, given who he is, it is the millions who aspire to be him, they really piss me off
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,719 posts)The braggadocio is kind of funny but his nativism and birtherism is anything but.
FSogol
(45,598 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,719 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)beneath a mass like unto that of Jupiter. That much is certain.
olddots
(10,237 posts)he is in another dimension .
Backwoodsrider
(764 posts)Trump has to have attention so this is a great chance for everyday people to see just how friggin crazy the right wing fringe has got! Just think what me might say to a national audience. Bet the RNC pays millions to shut him up. Truths gonna come out
spanone
(135,952 posts)the comic relief
would NEVER get elected to any office. never has been....never will be
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,719 posts)The better he does the better we do...
In fact I suspect most plutocrats disdain him too...He screams nouveau riche...