Maybe he walks down the street with an AK47 strapped to his back daring someone to confront him.

Maybe he mows down a church full of worshipers.

It's all terrorism.

remarks are accurate.

'You (as a people) are guilty for reasons XYand Z and must therefore be annihilated.'

"blaze of glory."

If he's not already dead, he's on the way to the NC mountains.

He was caught in NC though.

prove that over and over. The word terrorism is never uttered if the assailant is white, wears a baseball hat or camis.

terrorist again and again on CNN.

I must be the only one watching that channel.

"in group" lol.

However, it IS mainstream media, and they have described him again and again as a terrorist. And his crime as a hate crime.

To say so would dilute the years long campaign to demonize everyone else and attach the "terrorist" label to only a select few.

Whatever group gave him the patches would make him part of a terrorist organization, and not a lone wolf.

or some other white supremacist group, then he's not a lone wolf.

There's simply no evidence thusfar that Stormfront or any other supremacist organization were involved. More importantly, there's little value to such speculation.

Odd.

and responding to evidence is the opposite of speculation.

Thanks for issuing that lazy, off hand insult when you ran out of arguments, though.

a/the larger white supremacist culture ... No?

they don't have to have conspired with someone to commit the crime. "He's known to have ties to . . ."

If he's part of a terrorist organization, he should be spoken of in the same way.

so if this guy is associated with one, I hope that's discussed in the same way.

But we tend to see it treated like it's some weird one-off thing that makes no sense when the shooter is white, and connected to some larger problem when the shooter is not white.

always show up trying to hold on to some shred of respect for racists and their organizations and try to "splain" it away. I expect to be reading them all day. Typical and no sweat. They are a miniscule distraction.

Muslims are called terrorists, if they are any way associated with a Mosque. But more, an Islamic killer is connected to the larger terrorist movement by virtue of the cry, "Allah Akbar" ... whether he/she has any such ties.

Do you think the Feds have millions of Muslim Americans under surveillance?

I do believe that imams that preach a radical, violent agenda can come under scrutiny, but otherwise, I'm skeptical. And I have dozens of Muslim associates from my professional acquaintances. They go about their business completely unmolested.

I don't think there's a 'breathing while Muslim' policy in the same sense that there's a 'breathing while black' culture.

other than to distract from the root.

Any and all excuses will be brought up to deflect the fact that this is an act of domestic, homegrown terrorism.

Whether the guy was acting on orders from some racist RW group or not.

he's behind bars for the rest of his sorry life.

they intend on killing Black people because they believe Black people get special privileges

as insane as that sounds

(stronger than 'distracts from'...)

it points in that direction.....

Granted, your argument holds water with the Charleston killer.

But there are plenty of white shooters who kill white people or who are indiscriminate in their killing.

Saying "these white shooters" is like saying "those blacks" or "those Muslims."

Black folks, or Jewish folks or Gay folks ... IOWs, he was attempting to make a political statement, and neither were (most) of the plenty of white shooters who kill white people.

for the 'splainer' minimalists to show up... It's very clear where that one stands...always has been.

color or religion. What varies is if they are representatives of everyone sharing that color or religion or are they made out to be just an individual with "issues".

I was hoping someone would step up and correct this whooooosh moment.

Glad it was you. You're particularly good at this sort of thing.

I am tired, grouchy, depressed right now, I really appreciate what you said.

He had racist patches on his jacket in one of his photos. Those groups conspire to cause harm to persons of color. When you conspire to harm others, you're as guilty as the lone person who actually pulled the trigger. Lone wolf indicates that there are not others encouraging his behavior when we all know that there are. A simple Google search will confirm this.

he is not alone.....in his murderous, virulent hate of POC.... so he was/is never alone in his sentiments and actions as evidenced by the last three years of executions and murders by the privileged of POC...

by the wayside. Do you really think that nothing was an influence on his actions? That he acted within a vacuum? No even worth considering.

Those were the officially sanctioned RW memes that went out for this 24-hour news cycle.

It's sickening.

I would like to remind everyone that we MUST look at the statistics and logic of gun ownership. Please let us not:

#1: ALWAYS FOCUS ON EMOTIONAL AND VALUE-DRIVEN
ARGUMENTS ABOUT GUN VIOLENCE, NOT THE POLITICAL
FOOD FIGHT IN WASHINGTON OR WONKY STATISTICS

#2: TELL STORIES WITH IMAGES AND FEELINGS.

#3: CLAIM MORAL AUTHORITY AND THE MANTLE OF FREEDOM


Above 3 points from poster argued with me that guns do not equal violence because , after all as was pointed out:

"There are roughly 300 million firearms in America.

There are 80+ million Americans that own guns.

There are roughly 30 thousand gun deaths yearly.

That means that roughly 0.0375 percent of gun owners are involved in a gun death, annually.

It also means that .01 percent of all guns are involved in gun deaths, annually.

99.9 percent of gun owners will not commit gun violence, in the context used in this discussion, annually.

99.9 percent of guns will not be involved in gun violence in the context used in this discussion, annually.

That's a far far cry from guns = violence, at the opposite end of the spectrum in fact. "

And I am sure this is offering comfort to the dead in South Carolina

I don't want to ban guns but I'm done with the group that simply has to quote stats in response to human tragedy. They simply can't admit that guns are used to kill people. Or if the number of dead people is just so small to mention.

their fear TRUMPS ALL

A message just up on their website:

virulent murderous racism, so no...he's not "a lone wolf". great cartoon.

They avoid crazy humans whenever they can.

Unfortunately, that's the expression as handed down through linguistic history. And, it's the same in many other languages, i.e. French with 'un loup solitaire'.

I'd like to change it, too. Maybe 'lone hyena'? Or, 'solitary saber-tooth tiger'?

YES!