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cali

(114,904 posts)
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 11:00 AM Jun 2015

I can't tell you why but this feels as monumental to me as if the President had been shot

It's a moment where everything else recedes into the background, swamped by the horror of it. Presidential campaigns, Trade Agreements and everything else.

I feel physically ill.

It seems like a watershed moment. It's an act that recalls history, but emphasizes the deeply embedded racism that is endemic in our country. It is a reminder that much of that hate was rekindled by the election of President Obama and how, over the last several years, the polite fictions our dominant culture tells about racism fading, are nothing but lies the white community wants to believe. So much of the past bleeding into the present.


The massacre of those in prayer took place in a legendary church in Charleston, one deeply tied to the history of the fight against slavery from its beginnings in 1816- one of its founders, Denmark Vesey was executed for leading a failed slave rebellion. Vesey was a free man. He purchased his freedom with money he won in a lottery. He was unable to buy the freedom of his wife and children.

After his failed rebellion, Vesey and 34 others were executed by hanging. He had planned the rebellion in meetings with other church members. After the execution, Emanuel AME was razed to the ground. Church leader not executed, were banished.

http://www.ibtimes.com/who-denmark-vesey-charleston-church-founder-was-slave-rebellion-leader-african-1972855

Apologies for rambling. And I want to extend my deepest sympathies and sense of outrage to DU's PoC posters.

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I can't tell you why but this feels as monumental to me as if the President had been shot (Original Post) cali Jun 2015 OP
It's not monumental. Nothing will change. Nothing. DetlefK Jun 2015 #1
I Agree SoCalMusicLover Jun 2015 #2
He is a terrorist. cwydro Jun 2015 #3
I didn't mean anything would change. I meant that it feels overwhelming cali Jun 2015 #4
Exactly, this asshat left one lady alive to get out his political message JCMach1 Jun 2015 #6
even MSNBC is labeling him, 'gunman' JCMach1 Jun 2015 #5
The difference between the awoke_in_2003 Jun 2015 #7

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
1. It's not monumental. Nothing will change. Nothing.
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 11:04 AM
Jun 2015

It's just another isolated incident that means nothing, just another isolated incident, move along, nothing to see here...

When you get the media to call a white domestic terrorist a white domestic terrorist, THAT would be monumental. Until then, nobody will admit that there's even a problem.

 

SoCalMusicLover

(3,194 posts)
2. I Agree
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 11:07 AM
Jun 2015

We jumped the shark when children got slaughtered while at school.

We jumped it when every demographic got Murdered while attending a popular movie screening.

The media will jump up and down for awhile, but nothing will change.

BTW, have you heard that Bush & Clinton will be running again?

Nothing changes. Except perhaps the lives of those people Murdered.

Also....the 2nd amendment is Holy. Not God.

JCMach1

(27,591 posts)
6. Exactly, this asshat left one lady alive to get out his political message
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 11:32 AM
Jun 2015

THAT is a TERRORIST pure and simple...

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
7. The difference between the
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 12:56 PM
Jun 2015

16th Street Baptist church bombing in 1963 and now- we had a real media then.

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