having a presser at 4 pm today. This should get interesting.

Read my posts. The SC House leaders have agreed on a plan to remove it.

@fitsnews: SC House Leaders: Confederate Flag Will Come Down - http://t.co/Ec0c1STHWU http://t.co/QuY1mAELlT”

It's a symbol of their failure and of losing the war. Why would anyone want to be reminded? Thats like Germans being nostalgic about the swastika.

People use the claim it is about "Southern heritage" but that is just language to cover their real feelings. When I was growing up in Florida and regularly visiting relatives in Alabama, including Selma until the bridge incident, the only people who displayed that flag were KKK types and Civil War re-enactors.

It's only since the Civil Rights Movement, desegregation, and the Voting Rights Act that displaying that flag became more common. Every single person I have seen making it part of their public persona has been deeply racist with an underlayment of white supremacist.

I can see if you want to fly it on your house, free speech and all if you are so enamored of it, but really on State and other public buildings? It makes it look like a bunch of racists are running things.

To scare the politicians. Embarrassing as it is, at times there have been enough white supremacists to get their people into powerful places - Jesse Helms, for instance. And it doesn't happen just in the South - it happens all over the country.

She is part of the Tea Party group that Mark Sanford lead for a while. Believe it or not, most of the GOP lege are not that far right and they hated Sanford.

In 2006, Sanford pulled a real stunt against his own party. He was governor and he was mad that they wouldn't do everything he wanted yesterday. So for the election, he backed a group of Tea Party candidates he had rounded up to primary the GOP legislators he didn't like. The preople he targeted were the most senior party members who held high positions and had a lot of clout.

Well, this didn't end well for him. None of them were elected and he waaaay pissed off the wrong people. They never paid any attention at all after that. Haley has the same attitude. She thinks the lege should follow her every move. She disses them and they return the favor. She was in the hometown of one of the most important Senators and she called on people To vote him out.

SC has a strong lege/weak executive form of government. There were some ideas about changing that some, but Haley ruined that.

the ground

She started the day after she was elected.

I'm not making this shit up. The CCC demanded the 2/3 requirement when they originally bullied the assembly into passing the law.

Yes, this is the same CCC that radicalized Roof.

The fight to get it down from the statehouse was epic. If it can come down now without a massive fight that will be huge.

with a simple majority vote just now on Andrea Mitchell. He said that there was legislation that could be voted on that could do it. I missed his full explanation as I was making lunch but he put that to rest. He thinks it can be done and the flag removed. He has spoken with the Governor and is hopeful she will announce that it should come down.

The time is now! SC is coming under a LOT of scrutiny just now and they have a tourist industry that would suffer if they don't do the right thing (which they should hve done long ago...).

It is an obsolete thing that racists rally around.

It doesn't bother me one bit .
At least it tells me a persons feeling when I see them rally around it.

I saw what power flags have for people.

I just gave a laugh at the two people who had it sticking out of a truck bed at an auto parts store .

They picked up quickly why I laughed at them. If it gets voted down which I hope it does
just to see the anger in racists faces it will be worth it but I give this flag no power over me or my feelings.

The symbolism that people in power have endorsed is important. We didn't give it any power, that's new age baloney.

"It is an obsolete thing that racists rally around..."

Hence, the rational mind will conclude that if still used as a rallying point, it is yet still relevant rather than obsolete...