we'll make you eat this Whopper!

and is a time tested tactic of interrogation.

I thought it was pretty obvious that I was taking a swipe at Burger King and not the police

anything but that.

The outrage everyone is feeling (and rightfully so) is blinding them to objectivity. Officers providing food for dirt bags is a fairly common tactic.

He was being moved quickly from small jails to a facility that could handle the needs of a high profile subject. Sometimes it is quicker and easier to have a deputy swing through a drive thru for a combo meal than to adjust plans in order to get a meal from a jail cafeteria. I have made many run to restaurants near small town courthouses to grab a quick meal so that a prisoner can eat.

Please don not make a big deal of this. One BK whopper is not going to be a treat for a guy who will spend his last day on earth in a prison cell.

I think this is one of those 'sounds worse than it actually is'.

was gonna ask my son in law, who's in that business too.

But never let it be said that someone.......or a bunch of someones.......can't find an interpretation of the story that will feed their constant outrage.

And by the way, I'm not even a little bit fond of BK, so I'd consider that as amounting to grudgingly-consumed sustenance, hardly a "treat". Just sayin'.

So it's not a big deal. So what if he got a burger? Who would give a shit if all prisoners were treated equally.

That's the point.

Freddie Grey didn't complain of hunger. Eric Garner didn't complain of hunger. Etc. Etc. Etc. Ad infinitum

And all are fed at some point...doesn't matter what they've done or what color they are, they get to eat...this will be accomplished in the easiest most cost effective way....sometimes that is a whopper..

Got it.

distracting response regarding this case. Never fails on this forum.

but thank you for playing, Diane do we have some nice parting gifts for our contestants?

some day.

Not surprised by this, one bit.

think he won't make it to execution if he gets to prison and has the 10 years or so of appeals and the probable overturning of his conviction on some technicality or such, which given the state, if he survives general population, is a possibility. Another is he will get a minimum security prison, also a distinct possibility.

If he doesn't, he'll be in modified isolation on death row, in which case he'll have little contact and will under observation for years. Either way, it's not going to be a pleasant stay on Planet Earth for him.

prayer he has to escape death row is the victims families or plead guilty in exchange for life. The prosecutor relies heavily on their input when making that decision.

if he would have been an armed black man he probably wouldn't be hungry anymore- he'd be dead

What really blows my mind is they knew for certain that this punk was armed.

but let the screaming commence

1. Black guy arrested on fake minor charge: Thrown about back of van until spine is crushed, and you die.
2. White racist terrorist mass murder: Treated to Burger King

Do I have that right? TELL ME I DON'T HAVE THAT RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's infuriating!

If that racist fuck was hungry, he should have been offered a shit sandwich. Take it or leave it.

But here's a clue - different states, different police departments, etc., etc., etc.. Would it be better if they'd broken Roof's neck in the course of transporting him?

I've heard of dogs biting people - therefor ALL dogs are dangerous!

It's not that these cops shouldn't have fed this "suspect." It's that every citizen, black or white, should be treated in this way until brought to justice in a court of law. Not shot on the spot, choked to death, or subjected to fatal spinal injury before being charged or tried before a jury of their peers.

Police are not judges and juries. Treatment by police is undoubtedly unequal in many parts of this country and in numerous instances.

That is the outrage: not that this one prisoner got a Burger King.

The murderer said he was hungry. The cops should have replied "fvck your hunger".

You have it right.

Also, black man caught sellling cigarettes illegally, choked to death. And let's talk about what happens to black teenagers caught swimming.

man who entered a white church and shot 9 parishoners dead wouldn't have lived to enjoy a post-slaughter burger. The cops were probably looking at Roof and thinking, "This could be my kid." Thus, the gentle treatment.

They used to give prisoners at our local jail value meals from McDonalds. It must be because, like someone said above, it's quick.

It isn't like they're serving them something great...it is the lowest form of prepared food..

is a prominent attorney in the area.....gives one pause...

He has them no doubt in the system

they do this all the time with suspects.

A prisoner during transport being fed isn't one of them.

Of the Eighth Amendment

The ONLY thing I will eat from Burger King is the original chicken sandwich, and even that isn't very good. Whoppers are terrible.

glued together with protein cement, formed into an elongated oval, breaded and fried chicken sandwich?

... that.

you can charge double for it

or on their payroll?

that's why they fed him

Prisoners get to eat to.

Police stations dont have a cafeteria, so they fed him.

I bet he also got food today. Sure it wasnt burger king, but he is now in a jail where they have a cafeteria.

got it

They fed him. They do that. They often do it this way when they're transporting a suspect/prisoner. This isn't the big deal that people are making it out to be.

not only would he not have been taken for a burger, he would have never been taken, period.

Dead instantly

maybe they knew the prison cafeteria wouldn't be open until the following morning. But did they use the drivethrough, or go in and sit down?
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rocktivity

While it's sickening to think of Roof being treated better than 99% of suspects, it would be better if every suspect were treated as well as him.

Maybe if the cops had said, "We don't care if you're hungry" then he wouldn't have confessed and explained his motive.

This is probably the biggest case some of these cops are ever going to have their hands on.

They were most likely putting on the cop charm to get the guy to cut his own throat with his mouth.

I've known people (one dui suspect and one drug possession suspect) who couldn't believe what assholes the cops turned out to be after the cops acted like their buddies and got them to incriminate themselves.

... hands cuffed behind his back, and given an exciting tour of the town? No?

Maybe the arresting officers punished him by refusing to give him those little ketchup packages for his fries.

Feeding prisoners in custody/transit is standard procedure, and doing it at Burger King hardly qualifies as kid gloves. I wouldn't eat that crap on a bet.

Seriously, this is what you concern yourself with? Is providing a soda or water during questioning out of bounds too? Since that is--possibly--before arrest, or maybe also booking?

declares subject of no interest, attempts to change subject.


Bullshit.

People getting their panties in a wad over a burger? What bullshit.

At least according to Jon Stewart.

He had not been charge or convicted of anything related to Charleston at that time

And that was for a pot bust.

"Kid has to eat and bk is fast and cheap or should we just torture him for fun." ---- Again WHAT?

He brutally killed 9 innocent souls. He can eat his "meal" at the JAIL, PERIOD!

Must....Block....You....Will....Do....That....Before....We're....Banned. Dylann Roof KILLED 9 African-American church goers in COLD BLOOD and you are talking about the Blood Lust for Dylan Roof?

REALLY????

Bye-Bye....

And the worst part is you cant say to them what you need to say to them...not here

they should have made him eat Taco Bell food.

McD's is not food. Not at all.

of what this animal did, IF the person was captured, I can bet he would not have been fed for many hours, had a bullets proof vest on and be treated civilly or gently by the police as this POS was/is. NO DOUBT in my experience with american justice..... Given the last three years of watching american justice meted out to UNARMED AA men, women and children, this is white privilege at it's gentlest and finest. He was armed when captured.. But I know, I'm making a mountain out of a molehill......

Hey -- bass boats are expensive, and not many get confiscated at traffic stops.

(humor -- said facetiously)

but the disparity between how the police treat white suspects and minority suspects. Just look at how the black teenagers were treated and then how the white bikers were treated. A black suspect is called a thug and a white suspect is misguided. Equal justice for all is a myth in this country.

It's lost on some here, though, sadly.

Rather than disparity, it's a matter of how the schedule is stacking up, what's convenient, and other factors. Who pays for this? It's usually the cop him/herself.

I recently read this book called The Job by Steve Osborn, a former NYC cop who wrote a book about his experience as an officer. Later Osborn went on "The Moth" and became popular all over the United States, even with liberals. Actually, especially with liberals, but that's beside the point.

He explains in the book that cops often do buy a burger or hot dog for the prisoner. In fact, in this book, one chapter is called "hotdog."

They do this for a variety of reasons, many of which are explained upthread by the posters who say this is not unusual. Sometimes, for example, the way the day is stacking up, the prisoner might have to wait for a long time to get a meal. This means the cop has to wait a long time, too. And maybe, just maybe, the cop would like to get home or off duty at the time he or she is supposed to. That is just one reason a cop might buy a prisoner a meal.

Also, in the book, it did not matter what ethnicity or race the prisoner was.

The cop is responsible for that prisoner clear through the collar to booking.

People on this thread act like the cop should take personal affront to Roof and begin early punishment by letting him go hungry. Well, to that I would say, the system has some standards and that is not one of them.

Furthermore, cops learn early to build a wall around their own personal feelings about what perpetrators do. They have to do this to protect themselves and stay on the job.




Cher

before dinner, for so many cops, those unarmed black kids could get burgers too. I guess it's just how the schedule stacks.

We'll never know, though, will we? That is the point you and others in this thread seem to be missing.

makes sense, thanks

People here are acting like they took him into the burger king and let him play in the fucking ballpit.

I want to rec this post lots.

Tamir Rice did not get a kids' meal.

what has been done to many others who faced american justice in the last three years, unarmed men, women and children and did not get to have a burger king, they were killed outright. This POS is getting the best of privilege because he is white. That's all there is to it. No poison at all in the words of the one you're responding to. "This is about black people", "you're raping our women&quot because he lost a potential girlfriend to someone black allegedly, "you're taking over", gotten from another source of poison, white klan cover/white supremacist cover, CCC, "you have to go"... pure racist white supremacist thinking as he killed nine innocent people.That's the poison here.

someone who respects your right to have your opinion. This is america after all. I just find your opinion, after facing hate most of my life just because of the color of my skin and possible murder at the hands of jerks and LEO's, is something I can't and never will agree with. Have a good one.

It couldn't have happened to a nicer guy.

In the burger, like on Longmire, where the prisoners used them to pick locks, I'm okay with it. (Yeah, I know that's weird) Prisoners still need to eat, drink, poop, pee, etc.

If he must face the death penalty, let it be by lethal injection, not by arterial blockage

They let him have it his way. Pathetic!

In a sort of honeypot fashion.

him to a massage at a spa too. I mean, why not? They already kissed his ass that much. I wouldn't be surprised.

Meanwhile, more unarmed black kids will end up getting killed by cops, simply for being alive while black.

He shot a bunch off innocent people at 9 pm. This wasn't a meal, it was a midnight snack, and he didn't need it and certainly didn't deserve it. Everyone knows no black teenager who shot nine innocent white people at a historic white church would have gotten a god damn hamburger. He probably wouldn't even have been alive at that point.

Such bullshit.

Courts have thrown out confessions before because police have denied food and water. No harm in being careful. Also this happens every day.

I dont think Dylan was allowed in the playground if that is what you are upset about.

But no way would a black guy who had just shot up nine white people at a white church have been given Burger King. The point is the double standard in how black and white prisoners are treated.

There are plenty of times to complain when cops fuck up. I don't see how complaining when the cops do something right is going to help things.

First off - Funny how cops never seem to do the "something right" for POC, ain't it? White dude gets a whopper. Black dude gets filled full of holes.
But hey, stop complaining, right???

Second off - A couple of days ago I accidentally left my car window down and it rained in; I FUCKED UP. I also forgot to send my sister a birthday card; I FUCKED UP.
Blowing somebody away with a Sig Sauer, choking them to death, slamming them around in a van until their spine cracks like an egg, that is CRIMINAL, not fucking up.

Exactly!!

Ellenboro. Our post office back then (1975/76) was a small office trailer like you see on big construction sites.

Hell, my son got arrested last month for driving on a suspended license. He didn't even know it was suspended! We got the notice from the DMV 3 days later. Anyways, he had just cooked himself 2 hamburgers when my daughter asked him to run her to the store right quick. It's 3 miles from my house to the closest "corner store", so he put his burgers in the microwave for a few while he took her. After he got arrested, he told the officer "Damn Billy, I just cooked me some dinner and didn't even get to eat yet and I'm starving!" We live in a real small town and we're on first name basis with all the cops. Billy stopped at the Hardee's in town before they got to the jail and bought my son a bacon cheeseburger and some fries. They feed the inmates at 8am, noon and between 4 & 5pm. If they want anything after that, they have to have already gotten commissary. Billy knew my son wouldn't get anything to eat at the jail, so he did a solid and fed him.

I can't speak as to the reason the officer did this for Roof, I just know that it isn't uncommon in small towns...

Peace,

Ghost

My neighbor used to be a Sheriff's Deputy, he would regularly have to transport Baker Act people to the state hospital an hour away. He would always tell them if they behaved he would buy them either some donuts or a Whataburger before he had them admitted.

May those cold fries turn to ashes in your mouth, fuckface.

There's a number of reasons to do this--encourage confessions, encourage cooperation, forestall charges of abuse in a high-profile case.

It's entirely possible that the cops who did this were under orders from higher up detectives and whatnot to keep that psycho calm and happy until he was safely locked up.

But can't we accept such things are not extended to a lot of arrested subjects?

I mean, you get arrested the night before, and you haven't had dinner, they're not going to go out of their way to feed you before jail and you won't get a meal, maybe a bottle of water, until the next day.

People seem to be acting as if this is normal, it's not, for a lot of arrested subjects. They just make them be hungry until they are booked and until the next meal time comes around. Maybe, maybe a bag of chips and a coke from the vending machine just from a sympathetic cop on his own dime (generally to get a confession and to play the good cop, even).

People act as if this is some kind of life and death situation where a young man, a mass murderer, just can't be denied his right to a full stomach.

It happens all the fucking time. To petty criminals no less.

I am against the death penalty, but I reserve the right to not give a fuck if a given someone gets it (ie I won't extend effort to defend them). This is one of those cases. If he gets it I wouldn't be surprised if he orders Burger King.

I concede the fucker could've been talking and they wanted to make sure that he kept talking so they kept him fat and happy, it just disgusts me that we're not recognizing that a lot of people aren't treated this way.

d ifferently. the average prisoner isn't going to get a treat.....and will generally have to wait until the next meal time and even then isn't guaranteed sustenance.

I generally decline to second-guess police in situations like this to me Burger King doesnt shock the conscience killing Freddy gray in the back of the van does.