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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBreaking on Chris Hayes - Mississippi House Speaker says Confederate Flag
has to go.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)But still, will need to take a few pieces of gear just in case my friends from the local far right wing do show up
malaise
(269,328 posts)This is a great start - next policy that removes institutional racism.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Time will tell.
HassleCat
(6,409 posts)After 50 plus years of lying about it, the truth has finally overwhelmed the BS.
malaise
(269,328 posts)There is no tipping point.
Imagine one of these persons was under forty - three were over 70 including one who was over 80.
Good 'effen' grief! Time to tear down all these racist symbols.
HassleCat
(6,409 posts)...this might have slid by as a "lone nut case" thing. But there has been so much of this over the years, so many connections with the hate groups and the crazy websites, and that damn flag front and center, the truth just piles up until it spills over the denial barrier.
malaise
(269,328 posts)Had they not paid and found it, and posted pictures and the manifesto, they would still be spewing the usual BS.
Remember at first they said nothing was found on his computer.
cui bono
(19,926 posts)malaise
(269,328 posts)cui bono
(19,926 posts)mopinko
(70,388 posts)that turned the tide.
passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)I think we are lucky this one is being acted upon.
malaise
(269,328 posts)but this time the paper trail was found and they are scattering like roaches in the night - all the racists have been exposed.
irisblue
(33,060 posts)7962
(11,841 posts)I wasnt aware that he had anything to do with the conf. flag
passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)7962
(11,841 posts)Someone tosses in Newtown which was a totally different subject.
passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)but I think you knew that.
Sometimes a tipping point can be so obvious and yet goes by without a blip. We got lucky this time.
myrna minx
(22,772 posts)sufrommich
(22,871 posts)tipping point seems to have been reached.
napkinz
(17,199 posts)bluestateguy
(44,173 posts)Because I can't imagine them, or South Carolina, giving three shits what we think.
UTUSN
(70,793 posts)The dam finally burst - we have a proverb in these parts - every day carry bucket go a well, one day di bucket bottom muss drop off.
Duppers
(28,134 posts)It's spreading!
Next up, all the confederate era statues erected thoughout the South.
- southern old gal
rocktivity
(44,588 posts)marble falls
(57,540 posts)flag -part of a historical display on hate crime.
herding cats
(19,569 posts)I'm just going to say, it's one small step toward what should be, and should have been a long time ago. There are still leagues to travel, but it's at least heading the right way at the moment.
spanone
(135,950 posts)Cha
(298,086 posts)this is going to make some racists very upset.
mahalo malaise
brewens
(13,671 posts)"night rider" stuff going on again. I doubt they can organize and hide effectively and get away with it like they did before.
gwheezie
(3,580 posts)Never would have happened without finding the pictures and manifesto but good that it's happening. The GOP governor would have looked like a fool after the leadership of the victims families and their extraordinary humanity.
But it's just a symbol the transformational change has yet to come.
frazzled
(18,402 posts)Next, we need to shut down the websites of groups such as Council of Conservative Citizens by suing the living daylights out of them in civil court on behalf of the victims' families.
Then, we need to address gun control in a serious way.
But it can start with a flag. It's a symbol, and removing it is a symbol of changing attitudes. Let's recall how quickly we moved from DOMA and similar laws multiple states to near universal acceptance of gay marriage.
I'm afraid personal racism will never end, but removing the Confederate flag from state government capitols is a significant step in signaling further change in institutional racism, and in the opinions of the majority of even Southern, and Republican, citizens and politicians. It's a step.
gwheezie
(3,580 posts)This might start white people taking a stand to denounce racism with more action. It's time to isolate the racists.
lovemydog
(11,833 posts)wherever possible. Learn about their work, read their monitoring of hate groups like the Council of Conservative Citizens, and donate to the SPLC here:
http://www.splcenter.org
frazzled
(18,402 posts)Indeed, the first thing I did last Thursday morning when I learned of the crime was to send as large a donation as I could to SPLC. I knew they would be at the forefront of taking this beyond the lone shooter and extending it to the hate groups that fomented his twisted beliefs. They've done it many times before, and if anyone will do it, they will.
FSogol
(45,595 posts)lovemydog
(11,833 posts)I applaud everyone who is getting involved online and offline with the fight against racist symbols and institutional racism. It's a lifelong struggle. You meet the best people along the way.