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JohnnyRingo

(18,697 posts)
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 01:29 PM Jun 2015

"Southern Avenger" repents. "I was wrong about that flag".

He doesn't stop there, he goes on in a passionate plea to forever remove the confederate flag from his hometown of Charleston. Apparently the tragedy has sparked a sense of decency among some of the banner's most ardent supporters and I believe it's just a matter of time now before we see the symbol altogether erased from government.

I advise reading the entire article. It's inspirational to read such an admission by someone so far on the right that only hate and racism is behind that flag.

States’ rights? Heritage? I was wrong: The Confederate flag has always been about race.
As a Charleston, South Carolina-based conservative radio personality known as the “Southern Avenger,” I spent a decade defending the Confederate flag that is yet again the center of so much controversy.

I said the flag was about states’ rights. I said it stood for self-determination. I said it honored heritage.

I argued the Confederate flag wasn’t about race. I believed it. Millions of well-meaning Southerners believe it too.

I was wrong. That flag is always about race. Whatever political or historical points the flag’s defenders make, there will never be a time—and never has been a time—in which millions of Americans have looked at that symbol and not seen hatred.

We can argue for the rest of time whether this is fair or not. And for the rest of time, that symbol will still be seen in an overwhelmingly negative light.

Those who see hatred have political and historical reasons too.

This has always been the Confederate flag debate game. One camp’s arguments are supposed to trump the other’s.

I’m not here to settle those arguments. I tired of them years ago.

But I am here to say there is something at stake far more important than this symbol.

Heritage might not be hate. But battling hate is far more important than anyone’s heritage, politics, or just about anything else. We should have different priorities.

I now have different priorities.

Dylann Roof is a reminder of what’s at stake.


Continued here at "The Daily Beast":

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/06/22/the-southern-avenger-repents-i-was-wrong-about-the-confederate-flag.html
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"Southern Avenger" repents. "I was wrong about that flag". (Original Post) JohnnyRingo Jun 2015 OP
damn! annabanana Jun 2015 #1
Isn't this Rand Paul's white supremacist buddy? FSogol Jun 2015 #2
Yes -He cowrote one of Rand's books Gothmog Jun 2015 #5
I smell a rat. bullwinkle428 Jun 2015 #3
Bulls$#t!!! maxrandb Jun 2015 #4
Can't you just accept a small victory at face value? JohnnyRingo Jun 2015 #6

maxrandb

(15,402 posts)
4. Bulls$#t!!!
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 01:48 PM
Jun 2015

Last edited Tue Jun 23, 2015, 02:35 PM - Edit history (1)

"Millions of well-meaning Southerners believe it too."????

What a bunch of horseshit! Wrong asshat!...Millions of Southerners knew and know exactly what that flag stood for! It stood for the same shit today that it stood for before some racist asshole...steeped in the "culture" of the "South"...killed 9 African Americans in a church after praying with them for an hour!

You want to battle hate? Resign from your stupid ass radio program RIGHT FUCKING NOW! Ya know, the one with the thousand fucking "dog-whistles" a day? Ya know, the one that, if it's like every other fucking AM Radio station, either precedes or follows Limbaugh, Hannity, Savage, or some other peddler of hate and ignorance.

You want to battle hate? Replace your show with some fucking classic rock, or local gardening show. At least those shows might advance the decency and well-being of our country.

Every time I hear one of these "Oh shit...someone who thinks like me and was indoctrinated by me just blew someone's brains out" conversions, it make me think of how the hate mongers speak about Kennedy.

See, it was inconvenient for them to try to smear a President that the country saw get his brains blown off, so instead, they somehow come to the conclusion that Kennedy would be to the "right" of Ted Cruz if he were alive today.

This sorry "asspickle" helped create Dylan Roof. It's too late now to say "my bad"!

JohnnyRingo

(18,697 posts)
6. Can't you just accept a small victory at face value?
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 07:39 PM
Jun 2015

I'm not laboring under a delusion that this guy has suddenly become a liberal voice, but if Bernie Sanders made such a statement I'd be sitting at the top of the Greatest Posts right now. Indeed even if Limbaugh had the courage and honesty to state his real views about the confederate flag, his listeners would drop off like flies. Instead he and others remain mute or defensive on the issue.

Had you bothered to read the entire statement at the link you would have found a revelation that would have been unthinkable a month ago from this most conservative voice. Instead, you found it necessary to respond to the subject line and the short excerpt in a tunnel vision bias that dictates anything other than abject liberalism as completely unacceptable.

I find myself posting here less and less as time goes on because there's always at least one person who feels obligated to let me know I'm a dumbass for posting something other than the dubious fact that daisies sprout from the asses of the unbending far left.

Had you bothered to follow the link you would have seen hopeful gems of contrition like these:

"The week before a white supremacist murdered nine black men and women in my hometown of Charleston, I was angry at my fellow conservatives.

A 14-year-old black girl attending a pool party in McKinney, Texas, had been manhandled and thrown to the ground by a police officer. The girl had done nothing except talk. She was just standing there with other teenagers.

It was revolting to watch. I asked others to imagine it was their daughter."


And this:

Understand this: Imagine your great-grandfather was a slave. Imagine your great-grandfather was lynched. Imagine your grandfather was forced to drink from a separate fountain. Imagine your father or mother was murdered by a deranged man with the Confederate flag all over his website.

Imagine these kinds of horrors were your American heritage. Imagine every time you saw a Confederate flag it reminded you of this.

Now imagine being told you don’t understand what the flag “really” means.

It’s an insult.


Now imagine any other right wing voice or Republican candidate parroting those words in print. I'm not saying Jack Hunter is some paragon of liberalism, far from it, but it took a lot of guts to admit he was wrong, and I'm willing to accept that as stated.

I think I'm going back to not posting to avoid judgment by insufferably self righteous left wing concern trolls who hold more bottled up contempt than the people they criticize.

BTW.. I'm 50 miles from Cleve. Go Browns!

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