admit to them he did it? That is how police interrogations sometimes work out. That being said Freddie Grey had the injuries of somebody who dived into rocks. Just how fast did that van rev up then suddenly brake? That is a serious crime.

randys1

(16,286 posts)

8. sarcasm i hope

Reply to applegrove (Reply #7)

Tue Jun 23, 2015, 06:37 PM

Jun 2015

applegrove

(118,927 posts)

11. I've added to my post. No I was not being sarcastic. Someone

Reply to randys1 (Reply #8)

Tue Jun 23, 2015, 06:42 PM

Jun 2015

else said it yesterday about police procedure and it rang true to me...good cop, bad cop to get the best conviction. Roof said he did it. Now he has much less to negotiate which I like except that I don't like the death penalty. You don't honestly think police would feed him a treat just because he was hungry?

uponit7771

(90,371 posts)

18. +1, even if it's SOP for those LEOs it just leaves a HORRIBLE taste

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Tue Jun 23, 2015, 08:06 PM

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virgogal

(10,178 posts)

9. Homicide isn't necessarily murder. Legalese is quite confusing-at least to me.

Reply to malaise (Original post)

Tue Jun 23, 2015, 06:38 PM

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avebury

(10,953 posts)

13. The cops treated him with malice and callousness.

Reply to virgogal (Reply #9)

Tue Jun 23, 2015, 06:47 PM

Jun 2015

They did not properly secure Grey. Once he was in the van they repeatedly handled him in such a way to worsen the severity of his injury. They made no effort to stabilize his head nor did they place a call for medical assistance. Had Grey not died, he most likely would have ended up as a quadrapeligic.

brush

(53,978 posts)

14. Huh? What is it then?

Reply to virgogal (Reply #9)

Tue Jun 23, 2015, 06:48 PM

Jun 2015

If you're talking degrees like 1st degree, 2nd degree or manslaughter, ok, but homicide means a person's death was caused by another person.

virgogal

(10,178 posts)

16. Maybe you should read my post again.

Reply to brush (Reply #14)

Tue Jun 23, 2015, 08:02 PM

Jun 2015

brush

(53,978 posts)

20. Okay, I read it again

Reply to virgogal (Reply #16)

Wed Jun 24, 2015, 08:30 AM

Jun 2015

I still have to ask what is homicide then if it's not murder?

What's confusing about that term?

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)

22. Just posting this for clarity.

Reply to brush (Reply #20)

Wed Jun 24, 2015, 11:47 AM

Jun 2015

I don't know who this person is.

http://criminal.lawyers.com/felonies/blogs/archives/2977-the-legal-difference-between-murder-homicide.html

virgogal

(10,178 posts)

23. Look the definitions up in a legal dictionary.

Reply to brush (Reply #20)

Wed Jun 24, 2015, 01:59 PM

Jun 2015

brush

(53,978 posts)

24. Not a lawyer and don't have a legal dictionary

Reply to virgogal (Reply #23)

Wed Jun 24, 2015, 11:21 PM

Jun 2015

If you know that 1st degree murder, 2nd degree murder or manslaughter are not homicide pls do us laymen a favor and explain briefly.

avebury

(10,953 posts)

10. If they cannot get some convictions out of this, there is truly

Reply to malaise (Original post)

Tue Jun 23, 2015, 06:41 PM

Jun 2015

no hope in this country. I like the Prosecutor and think that she will fight with every breath for those convictions.

If the family files a civil suit, they have a good chance of a big payoff. What those officers did was egregious. They ingnored every possible chance that they had to help Grey. Taking the whole incident in its totality, to me, makes it premeditated. Premeditation does not take a specific time limit, it can occur in a instant. You have to wonder if the repeated stops were to figure out if he had died yet.