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KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 12:52 PM Jun 2015

White Americans Are The Biggest Terror Threat in the U.S.

http://www.globalpost.com/article/6592741/2015/06/24/white-americans-are-biggest-terror-threat-united-states

Almost twice as many people have died in attacks by right-wing groups in America than have died in attacks by Muslim extremists. Of the 26 attacks since 9/11 that the group defined as terror, 19 were carried out by non-Muslims. Yet there are no white Americans languishing inside the prison camp at Guantanamo Bay. And there are no drones dropping bombs on gatherings of military-age males in the country's lawless border regions.

Attacks by right-wing groups get comparatively little coverage in the news media. Most people will struggle to remember the shooting at a Sikh temple in Wisconsin that killed six people in 2012. A man who associated with neo-Nazi groups carried out that shooting. There was also the married couple in Las Vegas who walked into a pizza shop and murdered two police officers. They left a swastika on one of the bodies before killing a third person in a Wal-Mart parking lot. Such attacks are not limited to one part of the country. In 2011, two white supremacists went on a shooting spree in the Pacific Northwest, killing four people.

Terrorism is hard to define. But here is its basic meaning: ideological violence. In its study, the New America Foundation took a narrow view of what could be considered a terror attack. Most mass shootings, for instance, like Sandy Hook or the Aurora, Colorado movie theater shooting — both in 2012 — weren't included. Also not included was the killing of three Muslim students in North Carolina earlier this year. The shooter was a neighbor and had strong opinions about religion. But he also had strong opinions about parking spaces and a history of anger issues. So that shooting was left off the list.

The killing of nine people at a church in Charleston, South Carolina last week was included. The shooter made it clear that his motivation was an ideological belief that white people are superior to black people. The shooting has cast new light on the issue of right-wing terrorism in the United States. But since it can't really use Special Forces or Predator drones on US soil, it remains unclear how the government will respond.


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White Americans Are The Biggest Terror Threat in the U.S. (Original Post) KamaAina Jun 2015 OP
HUGE kandr randys1 Jun 2015 #1
just curious hill2016 Jun 2015 #2
Nineleven(TM) marked the beginning of the War On Terra(TM) KamaAina Jun 2015 #3
if you read the comments hill2016 Jun 2015 #4
I always allow commenters on news sites to shape my worldview. KamaAina Jun 2015 #5
You should at least give them consideration. NCTraveler Jun 2015 #6
Most news comment sites are as full of trolls as Disgustingist. KamaAina Jun 2015 #7
Many news sites aren't very honest themselves. nt. NCTraveler Jun 2015 #9
You could always go back further if you really want to. Glassunion Jun 2015 #18
White terrorism from 1492, Admiral Loinpresser Jun 2015 #23
Let's see... linuxman Jun 2015 #8
No, that wasn't the conclusion you were supposed to reach. NM_Birder Jun 2015 #10
Also for some perspective, 48 people were killed Travis_0004 Jun 2015 #11
so is Muslim a race? Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2015 #12
Muslim refers to a member of a religion, but in some people's minds it has become a Cal33 Jun 2015 #14
well,......... NM_Birder Jun 2015 #21
No, but neither is white supremacist. Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2015 #20
I went to the "study", if you could call it that LOL...what a joke snooper2 Jun 2015 #13
What about the Washington Navy Yard shooting. nt B2G Jun 2015 #15
Those weren't domestic terrorist, they both were from another nation IIRC uponit7771 Jun 2015 #16
you remember incorrectly, an American and the younger a Jamaican-American snooper2 Jun 2015 #17
They were both American. He wanted to lower his alimony. Recursion Jun 2015 #19
White Americans are the biggest terror threat to the Solomon Jun 2015 #22
Clever to use 9/12/2001 as the starting point for this "study" (nt) Nye Bevan Jun 2015 #24
Well, it was the starting point for the War On Terra(TM) KamaAina Jun 2015 #25
 

hill2016

(1,772 posts)
2. just curious
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 12:59 PM
Jun 2015

why they started after 9/11 and not include it.

I guess if you ignore the data you don't like you can get the stats to tell anything

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
3. Nineleven(TM) marked the beginning of the War On Terra(TM)
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 01:01 PM
Jun 2015

would be my guess.

Hell, why didn't they go back to Oklahoma City?

 

hill2016

(1,772 posts)
4. if you read the comments
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 01:08 PM
Jun 2015

in the ny times article, a lot of people are also asking why they just happened to start the day after 9/11. Seems like they cherry picked the data to arrive at the conclusion they wanted to come to.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
6. You should at least give them consideration.
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 01:23 PM
Jun 2015

With the amazingly poor reporting that comes from "news sites," and one of the best aspects of the internet being fact checking these people on the spot, you should give some of their words merit. You are dismissing one of the greatest aspects of the internet. The ability to immediately fact check and look into the honesty of what is being presented by "news sites" by thousands and thousands of people. Don't give "news sites" your complete trust in shaping your world view. Clearly, writing an article on this topic, and using data after a recent and horrible terror attack, is going to raise questions.

Admiral Loinpresser

(3,859 posts)
23. White terrorism from 1492,
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 12:32 PM
Jun 2015

if you count extremely high casualties on slave ships and native plague deaths, caused both intentionally and unintentionally by white invaders, is comparable to the deaths caused by Hitler.

 

linuxman

(2,337 posts)
8. Let's see...
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 01:24 PM
Jun 2015

26 attacks, 19 by non Muslims leaves 7 attacks by muslims.

70 percent of the US is white, vs 3 percent as muslim ( I know muslims can be white, their words not mine)

Someone is certainly punching above their weight class...

Wait, that wasn't the conclusion I was supposed to reach, huh?

Oh, and 9/11? Dosent count, apparently.

 

NM_Birder

(1,591 posts)
10. No, that wasn't the conclusion you were supposed to reach.
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 01:31 PM
Jun 2015

Everything is always the fault of white people,............. is the conclusion you are supposed to reach.
-and- if you don't agree, then that means you are a racist white person.

 

Travis_0004

(5,417 posts)
11. Also for some perspective, 48 people were killed
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 01:47 PM
Jun 2015

Chicago has close to that many murders in one month.

 

Cal33

(7,018 posts)
14. Muslim refers to a member of a religion, but in some people's minds it has become a
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 02:00 PM
Jun 2015

member of a race. The dirty tricks that our minds play on us! But that's the way it goes.

 

NM_Birder

(1,591 posts)
21. well,.........
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 04:17 PM
Jun 2015

isn't "Christan findie whackjob" " or "Bible belt Richectwing nutjob" specifically meant to imply white male ?

If you say no, then you are only kidding one of us, and I'm not the one. That is absolutely the implication.
dirty little tricks indeed.
 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
13. I went to the "study", if you could call it that LOL...what a joke
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 01:57 PM
Jun 2015

I guess they completely forgot about incidents like the Beltway sniper attacks...


Tools, tools abound everywhere LOL

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
17. you remember incorrectly, an American and the younger a Jamaican-American
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 02:08 PM
Jun 2015

They only killed like 10 or so people so it probably doesn't count right?


Recursion

(56,582 posts)
19. They were both American. He wanted to lower his alimony.
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 02:11 PM
Jun 2015

Or something like that. I'm not sure if that meets whatever definition they were using.

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