Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

marmar

(77,129 posts)
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 08:36 PM Jun 2015

Thom Hartmann: Fukushima and thyroid cancer





Published on Jun 24, 2015

Kevin Kamps, Beyond Nuclear joins Thom. The worst nuclear accident in recent history wasn’t unexpected - that’s according to an internal document recovered from Tokyo Electric Power - also known as Tepco. Tepco originally claimed that it had done everything possible to protect the nuclear power plant at Fukushima. But we now know that Tepco executives had discussed the need to build up coastal defenses back in 2008 - two and a half years before the tsunami hit Fukushima and caused a triple meltdown.
3 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Thom Hartmann: Fukushima and thyroid cancer (Original Post) marmar Jun 2015 OP
I have to agree that a sea wall would likely not have been effective Warpy Jun 2015 #1
Not quite true FBaggins Jun 2015 #3
K & R. Saw this, real concerning for sure. appalachiablue Jun 2015 #2

Warpy

(111,480 posts)
1. I have to agree that a sea wall would likely not have been effective
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 08:53 PM
Jun 2015

Lots of cities had enormous sea walls, built to deflect the historic tsunamis and then some. Every single wall was breached by this one, the quake was the strongest ever and there was likely no way to predict what it eventually did.

What they should have done from the very beginning is lift those generators far up off the ground. Had they done that, the plant would likely have been destroyed as far as power generation ability goes but the meltdown and massive release of radioactive material would not have occurred with uncompromised generators. There would have been time to cool things down and shut the cores down properly with uninterrupted power.

Yes, they'd have been a pain in the neck to service, climbing a ladder and accessing them from a catwalk, but you have to admit that it would have beaten what actually happened.

I do expect a spike in thyroid cancer here, also, but nothing like they've seen in Japan. They're getting the double whammy of environmental exposure plus what they're getting in a diet heavily reliant on seafood.

FBaggins

(26,797 posts)
3. Not quite true
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 07:47 AM
Jun 2015

Fudai was laughed at for years because they built such a large (and expensive) barrier... yet a few thousand residents owe their lives (and property) to it.



What they should have done from the very beginning is lift those generators far up off the ground. Had they done that, the plant would likely have been destroyed as far as power generation ability goes but the meltdown and massive release of radioactive material would not have occurred with uncompromised generators. There would have been time to cool things down and shut the cores down properly with uninterrupted power.


Actually... they would have been fine (from a meltdown perspective... not perhaps a "save the plant" perspective) if they had better-protected backup generators. More modern designs would have fared better as well... but time travel isn't currently an option.

I do expect a spike in thyroid cancer here, also, but nothing like they've seen in Japan.

Except that they haven't actually seen a spike even in Japan.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Thom Hartmann: Fukushima ...