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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIMO, Bernie needs to broaden his message. Those over 40 living payday to payday
may agree Wall doesn't lookout for Main Street but.....Messing around with the banking system is not going to be good for them right now.
It's like when the 800 pounders fight those on the sidelines get beat up.
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)CK_John
(10,005 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)He excludes everyone. Minorities, women, the unemployed, people who are over 40, seniors, young people, the needy. I don't know why this fucker made it to Mayor of Burlington, let alone the US Senate. I am so ashamed to be supporting him.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)Very telling.
We need a President who knows that SLAVERY is WRONG.
Wilms
(26,795 posts)Not a single word about water fluoridation.
So I'm withholding my support.
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)Holy crap!
CK_John
(10,005 posts)flesh out his ideas and how he will do that with a GOP Senate and House.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)comes down to what Bernie is talking about - breaking up the banks. It is actually dangerous to leave them that big because the can and did take the world down with them. So we can choose - either turn the banks into smaller banks with regulation or leave them the way they are until they create another collapse on the assumption that they will be bailed out again.
CK_John
(10,005 posts)banks and money are just a concept at the national level and will be supported when needed.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)regulations. The bank holiday was for banks that did not have the type of regulation he but in place later. Those banks were still part of Hoovers system. Savings and loan was being deregulated by raygun and poppy bush if I remember correctly.
Wilms
(26,795 posts)Now, this is just a rumor. But I heard they card people at the door of Bernie events. You guessed it. Back of the line. If there is room, they eventually let them in, but that also means SRO. Old men and women standing!1!!1
He just doesn't get it.
CK_John
(10,005 posts)seveneyes
(4,631 posts)Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)I have been to a few Bernie events. The crowd is about half people over 40 and half well under 30, but over 18. Would I like to see more people over 30 and closer to 50, sure. But, they can't be there when they are working two jobs, taking care of children and their parents because the government doesn't care to make sure families are able to take care of themselves and have something left over to give back to the community in the form of being able to attend events and take time for themselves out of their busy schedules.
CK_John
(10,005 posts)Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)He is drawing the crowd you seem so concerned about him not drawing. And the LGBT people like him very much as well so...I have no idea what you are going on about.
I won't speak for all 30 to 50 year olds but those like myself that I know are so damned busy working raising families, paying off student loan and credit card debt, and wondering if the next health crisis is going to bankrupt us that we don't always have time to attend rallies by any candidate even one we support.
I wanted to go to Vegas when Sanders was there. It is only about 5 hours north but it meant gas costs, road wear on an old vehicle in this heat, likely an overnight stay due to my health issues, time off from work for my partner and I, and we just couldn't justify it.
eridani
(51,907 posts)The young and the old. People in their child-rearing years tend to be treading water and not having time for anything but jobs and kids.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)Juicy_Bellows
(2,427 posts)40 and up, 40 and below - we are legion.
Doesn't bother me that a few rich folks may be bummed by his message.
What exactly do you think would happen if we passed some serious regulation on the banks?
CK_John
(10,005 posts)Juicy_Bellows
(2,427 posts)The people will have to have his back and elect a better congress. I don't have all the answers but if I understand you correctly, what's the point of your OP then? It's irrelevant if it can't happen anyway, no?
CK_John
(10,005 posts)nothing.....
Juicy_Bellows
(2,427 posts)Awareness is vital. If we can get enough people to get Sanders in the general we can start to discuss how to accomplish the seemingly impossible. Like I said up thread, it won't be easy.
Imagine if folks fighting for the end of slavery took a similar approach and just said fuck it - too hard?
CK_John
(10,005 posts)and link college to getting jobs for graduates the bank regulation can wait.
Juicy_Bellows
(2,427 posts)It's a damn fine start!
Grilled Charlie
(57 posts)Bernie- financed and supported by the people. He might not be able to get things done unless we back him but at least we know where his loyalties lie and who he' fight for.
Hillary- financed by the banks/ Wall street and the corporations who love the fact that you're working pay check to pay check. If they keep you desperate, you'll agree to anything for your next few crumbs.
She might say things to caress your dainty ego (some people desperately need that apparently ) but at the end of the day. She needs to do the bidding of her investors and shareholders.
CK_John
(10,005 posts)AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)Will we know before the primaries? Are the focus groups still out on this one?
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)And now they are in the 0.01% so Hillary knows a thing or two about economics.