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ACA subsidies upheld (King v. Burwell)! 6-3 vote including Roberts!!! (Original Post) brooklynite Jun 2015 OP
That's good news. nt el_bryanto Jun 2015 #1
Yay!! octoberlib Jun 2015 #2
HAH! BeyondGeography Jun 2015 #3
K&R! napkinz Jun 2015 #4
K&R !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! n/t RKP5637 Jun 2015 #5
Now STFU Republicans! Human101948 Jun 2015 #6
Fuck 'em. calimary Jun 2015 #78
I still want single payer, but ACA is better than what we had for a good many people. boston bean Jun 2015 #7
Think of it as advancing the ball and getting another first down... brooklynite Jun 2015 #12
Only if we register voters and GOTV to give her (or Bernie) a cooperative House and Senate. nt tblue37 Jun 2015 #27
That's the key. ananda Jun 2015 #49
No doubt iandhr Jun 2015 #39
Kick and highly recommended! William769 Jun 2015 #8
Wahoooooooo! Lint Head Jun 2015 #9
And subsidies for everyone regardless of the state you live in. Skidmore Jun 2015 #10
NBC News describing this as a "big victory" for the Obama administration. greatauntoftriplets Jun 2015 #11
It definitely was Rstrstx Jun 2015 #57
THANK GOD, now we can sleep at night and not go hungry! B Calm Jun 2015 #13
The "sky is falling folks" need to take the day off, OK? Fred Sanders Jun 2015 #26
? B Calm Jun 2015 #31
Should apply to their critics too. Six of one, half a dozen of the other. LanternWaste Jun 2015 #68
But what if I have a "deeply held religious belief" against subsidies? brooklynite Jun 2015 #14
Move to Canada, LOL?? B Calm Jun 2015 #15
Somalia? rurallib Jun 2015 #16
There you go! B Calm Jun 2015 #17
Move to Moscow George II Jun 2015 #53
Then don't accept any subsidies JustABozoOnThisBus Jun 2015 #19
You still may break the law, suffer the tax penalty RiverNoord Jun 2015 #50
I think there is an another exemption HockeyMom Jun 2015 #65
Right! You can doctor some documents and con RiverNoord Jun 2015 #112
That exemption in general needs to be removed tbh. ncjustice80 Jun 2015 #107
!!!!!!! blackspade Jun 2015 #18
Our FRiends don't seem to be happy brooklynite Jun 2015 #20
LOL They are too funny! B Calm Jun 2015 #28
wow...Freepville still exists? mindfulNJ Jun 2015 #33
I thought the same Locrian Jun 2015 #73
Yep, they and their circa 1998 forum software is still up and running... stevenleser Jun 2015 #103
lol they are obsessed with the black robes of judges treestar Jun 2015 #51
FOX NEWS has the ALERT thingy going across the screen and talk about crying babies! B Calm Jun 2015 #60
Fuck 'em. calimary Jun 2015 #77
here, here. +1 B Calm Jun 2015 #82
Fuck 'em. calimary Jun 2015 #79
Incredible Tardigrade Jun 2015 #104
EXCELLENT!!! Chicago1980 Jun 2015 #21
Yep. Despite being in the majority in terms of both the US population and the tblue37 Jun 2015 #40
Welcome to DU, Chicago1980! calimary Jun 2015 #76
Thanks Chicago1980 Jun 2015 #111
Who were the three? AllyCat Jun 2015 #22
And Alito Chicago1980 Jun 2015 #24
Yep, Curly, Larry and Moe Hokie Jun 2015 #25
Fuck 'em. calimary Jun 2015 #85
Scalito? Raine1967 Jun 2015 #29
Very well... 3catwoman3 Jun 2015 #38
OMG! the 3-fer is perfecto! Raine1967 Jun 2015 #44
Why, thank you very much. 3catwoman3 Jun 2015 #45
It's a each from a bad tick bite! Raine1967 Jun 2015 #55
I've decided I think a 3 syllable version is best, so my... 3catwoman3 Jun 2015 #92
That trumps mine for sure. AllyCat Jun 2015 #100
Thanks! I'm not trying to compete - I just... 3catwoman3 Jun 2015 #102
LOL! AllyCat Jun 2015 #110
Fuck 'em. calimary Jun 2015 #80
k and r...nt Stuart G Jun 2015 #23
Blogger (Amy Howe) noted that health care industries stocks would crap out rurallib Jun 2015 #30
We still need to take over the court. craigmatic Jun 2015 #32
Thank God...it means I won't lose my coverage... First Speaker Jun 2015 #34
Good to know.. so very happy for you, FS Cha Jun 2015 #106
K & R Iliyah Jun 2015 #35
Let me guess Punx Jun 2015 #36
I am shocked iandhr Jun 2015 #42
I think Roberts iandhr Jun 2015 #37
As he damn well... 3catwoman3 Jun 2015 #41
Roberts IMO showed early on he would kick ACA but not shoot it Recursion Jun 2015 #63
I think Roberts cbdo2007 Jun 2015 #74
Probably seriously concerned about his own legacy. calimary Jun 2015 #81
I don't think that's it. justgamma Jun 2015 #99
About all those Republican "alternatives" Zambero Jun 2015 #43
Kind of hard to file them away where the sun doesn't shine - or anywhere else. calimary Jun 2015 #83
In the old days, on a basketball court we'd say; Dyedinthewoolliberal Jun 2015 #46
In the immortal words of Daryl Dawkins: kairos12 Jun 2015 #66
Brilliant! Dyedinthewoolliberal Jun 2015 #89
GOP explosion on aisle 2016! Can I get a a bucket and a cleanup? mfcorey1 Jun 2015 #47
Fuck 'em. calimary Jun 2015 #84
Let them clean their own feces themselves. Boomerproud Jun 2015 #95
Haha!!! Eat it, KING! mike dub Jun 2015 #48
Fuck 'em. calimary Jun 2015 #86
K & R Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #52
Finally some good news after being bombarded with bad news over the free trade totodeinhere Jun 2015 #54
ZOMG! n/t SpankMe Jun 2015 #56
Happy day! Politicub Jun 2015 #58
Great news. Roberts is definitely not a Scalia LittleBlue Jun 2015 #59
6-3 upholding equality. Make book on it. hifiguy Jun 2015 #91
Yeah that sounds about right LittleBlue Jun 2015 #93
Maybe our Chief Justice will turn into David Souter iandhr Jun 2015 #61
election is coming heaven05 Jun 2015 #62
Anyone have the brass ones to go to Freeperville? (N/M) Grins Jun 2015 #64
Already been and gone... brooklynite Jun 2015 #70
Fuck 'em. calimary Jun 2015 #87
I took a swim through that sewer earlier in the day... Volaris Jun 2015 #98
I'm freakin' STUNNED!!!! THRILLED!!!!! And relieved. calimary Jun 2015 #67
Kickety! Hekate Jun 2015 #69
I'm surprised and very pleased NT Ex Lurker Jun 2015 #71
Together, let's celebrate Obama's better legacy today Jack Rabbit Jun 2015 #72
That's what they get for trying to fuck him over rocktivity Jun 2015 #75
Fuck 'em. calimary Jun 2015 #88
Roberts had already stuck his neck out once on this one hifiguy Jun 2015 #90
Thank God, that is a relief for me KrazyinKS Jun 2015 #94
The insurance lobby The Wizard Jun 2015 #96
Holy shit, Roberts wrote the opinion! Hepburn Jun 2015 #97
YES! President Barack Obama's message to the GOP on #ObamaCare's 6-3 SCOTUS win. Cha Jun 2015 #101
KICK Cha Jun 2015 #105
Those poor republicans Turbineguy Jun 2015 #108
C-Span Washington Journal this morning is hilarious with right-wingers calling B Calm Jun 2015 #109
 

Human101948

(3,457 posts)
6. Now STFU Republicans!
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 10:12 AM
Jun 2015

Stop wasting time on "Obamacare" and do something of substance.

(Yes, I know it's a crack pipe dream!)

boston bean

(36,228 posts)
7. I still want single payer, but ACA is better than what we had for a good many people.
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 10:12 AM
Jun 2015

So, glad to hear this.

brooklynite

(95,077 posts)
12. Think of it as advancing the ball and getting another first down...
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 10:15 AM
Jun 2015

President Clinton can work on enhancements.

ananda

(28,926 posts)
49. That's the key.
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 10:55 AM
Jun 2015

I wish SCOTUS could and would rule to overturn some of that
crazy redistricting and gerrymandering the Reeps have pushed
through in some states.. including mine, Texas.

iandhr

(6,852 posts)
39. No doubt
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 10:39 AM
Jun 2015

Many people still don't have the care they need but 16 million more people having care is better than 0

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
10. And subsidies for everyone regardless of the state you live in.
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 10:13 AM
Jun 2015

Pete Williams on MSNBC just reported that. Regardless of whether a state exchange exisits or not.

Rstrstx

(1,403 posts)
57. It definitely was
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 11:08 AM
Jun 2015

Not only did the government win but the written opinion of the court read like it could have been written by the government, the court bought none of the plaintiff's arguments

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
68. Should apply to their critics too. Six of one, half a dozen of the other.
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 12:33 PM
Jun 2015

Should apply to their critics too. Six of one, half a dozen of the other.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,388 posts)
19. Then don't accept any subsidies
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 10:21 AM
Jun 2015

and if they're forced on you, give the equivalent funds to a far-right charity.

Problem solved!

 

RiverNoord

(1,150 posts)
50. You still may break the law, suffer the tax penalty
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 10:56 AM
Jun 2015

and not buy health insurance. It's very simple. Of course, if you have a 'deeply held religious belief' that incurring a cost in breaking a law that violates another deeply held religious belief, well, then I guess you have a problem.

It's amazing how many people tout their 'deeply held religious beliefs' but get rather upset when actually adhering to them costs them money. Especially when they claim to be Christian. After all, isn't it harder for a rich man to enter the Kingdom of Heaven than for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle? Or maybe not - a lot of Christians don't seem to see that passage. Maybe only true believers can look at the Bible and see the truth that it's not really there .

 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
65. I think there is an another exemption
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 12:04 PM
Jun 2015

Members of a Federally recognized Tribe living on Sovereign land (reservations).

ncjustice80

(948 posts)
107. That exemption in general needs to be removed tbh.
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 07:06 AM
Jun 2015

The demands of the state outweigh personal religious belief.

Chicago1980

(1,968 posts)
21. EXCELLENT!!!
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 10:24 AM
Jun 2015

I bet this on't be the last challenge though, just because these people are relentless.

Baggers heads exploding like it were a 'Scanners' convention.

tblue37

(65,556 posts)
40. Yep. Despite being in the majority in terms of both the US population and the
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 10:39 AM
Jun 2015

voter rolls, Democrats and liberals of all stripes are *not* relentless, whereas the RW base, which is constantly being propagandized by well-funded institutions and operatives, never lets up. They are the energizer bunny, whereas our side will only come out to vote for presidential elections (and even then not always), ignoring very important local and state elections, as well as the congressional midterm elections. Then, when we do get a Democratic president, our side gets disgusted when he can't push his agenda through an entirely uncooperative congress.

Yes, W got a lot done--because his agenda was the same as what TPTB wanted, so they helped rather than hindered. But like Carter before him, Obama has never had even all the Democrats in congress on his side.

Of course with this stupid trade agreement, he does have the wealthy and powerful working with rather than against, so of course NOW the Republicans and the corporodems are willing to cooperate. Heck, I bet even Lieberman would be cooperative on this if he were still in the Senate!

calimary

(81,612 posts)
76. Welcome to DU, Chicago1980!
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 02:33 PM
Jun 2015

Glad you're here! It's Celebration Day for sure around here! Our Day of Jubilee! What's bad for the baggers is good for all the rest of us! And ironically, those stupid thoughtless selfish jerks don't even realize - the ACA helps THEM, TOO!!!!!!!!

3catwoman3

(24,150 posts)
38. Very well...
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 10:37 AM
Jun 2015

...played, indeed!

We could have fun playing with these potential combinations:

Thomalito
Thomalia
Scamas
Scathom

Scalitomas - a 3-fer

3catwoman3

(24,150 posts)
92. I've decided I think a 3 syllable version is best, so my...
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 03:38 PM
Jun 2015

...latest suggestion to incorporate something from all 3 is SCA(lia)(a)LIT(Thom(AS)

Scalitas - which is to be pronounced ScalitASS

3catwoman3

(24,150 posts)
102. Thanks! I'm not trying to compete - I just...
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 10:00 PM
Jun 2015

...love word play.

2 of my favorite blended words that resulted from one of the words contests run by some organization are

Sarchasm - the gap between someone capable of biting wit and someone too stupid to get it

Ignoranus - someone who is both stupid AND an a$$hole

rurallib

(62,494 posts)
30. Blogger (Amy Howe) noted that health care industries stocks would crap out
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 10:29 AM
Jun 2015

were the decision in favor of King.
This in response to a comment about Roberts being extremely pro-business

First Speaker

(4,858 posts)
34. Thank God...it means I won't lose my coverage...
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 10:33 AM
Jun 2015

...and given my health issues, that might have killed me...ACA has literally been a lifesaver for me...

iandhr

(6,852 posts)
37. I think Roberts
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 10:37 AM
Jun 2015

Is really concerned about the reputation of the Supreme Court and how much Citzens united damaged it

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
63. Roberts IMO showed early on he would kick ACA but not shoot it
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 11:31 AM
Jun 2015

He already had a chance to kill ACA a few years ago and didn't bite.

cbdo2007

(9,213 posts)
74. I think Roberts
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 01:31 PM
Jun 2015

is a lot more fair in his decisions than most people here on DU will ever admit.

He seems to be the rare kind that can straddle both sides pretty well and for that I thank him.

calimary

(81,612 posts)
81. Probably seriously concerned about his own legacy.
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 02:39 PM
Jun 2015

Unless he's been living in a concrete lockbox, I'd bet he's got to be painfully aware of the horrendous damage that some of his rulings have done to this country. Like Citizens United and gutting the Civil Rights Act. He's the Chief Justice. So those lovely rulings have HIS name on it.

justgamma

(3,667 posts)
99. I don't think that's it.
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 06:42 PM
Jun 2015

Roberts has epilepsy. He knows that he would never be able to buy insurance without Obamacare. Maybe, just maybe, he is thinking about other people in his situation.

Zambero

(8,982 posts)
43. About all those Republican "alternatives"
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 10:41 AM
Jun 2015

Now permanently filed away where the sun doesn't shine! It's time to shift the focus onto the expansion of Medicaid in states that have not have not yet taken that step.

calimary

(81,612 posts)
83. Kind of hard to file them away where the sun doesn't shine - or anywhere else.
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 02:43 PM
Jun 2015

Since they don't exist.

And never have.

And never will.

Let's just be honest here. The GOP does NOT want to help people. They don't want to help you. And they don't want to have to be compelled to help you because they're too cheapskate and mean-spirited and selfish to do it on their own. If it REALLY meant something to them, if this issue was THAT important to them, it'd be solved by now. They'd have had answers. They own it all, on Capitol Hill. They own it all, at the state level, with a majority of governorships and state legislatures now abysmally stuck in CON hands. They could have gotten this job done EASILY with the numbers they've finagled into positions of power.

AND THEY HAVEN'T.

They HAVEN'T DONE SQUAT.

That should tell you all you need to know. When WE ran the table and owned the whole thing and Dems were in control of the House, the Senate, AND the White House, we got this done. DONE. Just in those first two years of the Obama administration. DONE. Then the bad guys grabbed control and look what's happened? A whole lotta NOTHING.

FUCK 'em.

kairos12

(12,906 posts)
66. In the immortal words of Daryl Dawkins:
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 12:31 PM
Jun 2015

This is a get out of my waying, backboard swaying, I'm not playing, in your face, disgrace, shot.

totodeinhere

(13,059 posts)
54. Finally some good news after being bombarded with bad news over the free trade
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 11:07 AM
Jun 2015

debacle that was shoved down our throats.

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
58. Happy day!
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 11:11 AM
Jun 2015

I've been an Obamacare user for the past few months since losing my job. It's a miracle to be able to purchase insurance for the price I pay with pre-existing conditions like I have.

I'm all for single payer, but my ACA plan with all of its warts is so much better than how things used to be for the uninsured.

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
59. Great news. Roberts is definitely not a Scalia
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 11:14 AM
Jun 2015

Won't surprise anyone now if he sanctions gay marriage

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
91. 6-3 upholding equality. Make book on it.
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 03:24 PM
Jun 2015

That has been my prediction for months.

Roberts' jurisprudence has a simple philosophy - Big Money Always Wins if it its interests are pertinent to the case.

To the extent Big Money cares about marriage equality at ail, they think it's basically good business. No real dog in the fight, ergo Roberts votes to uphold. And I don't think he or anyone with a lick of sense wants to take on Posner's Seventh Circuit opinion, which burned the anti-equality rationales to the waterline and dynamited the wreckage just for good measure.

And in any case, ACA has been a windfall for Big Pharma and Big Insurance, who continue to rob the populace deaf, dumb and blind. Nothing surprising about his vote here at all.

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
93. Yeah that sounds about right
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 03:55 PM
Jun 2015

6-3 looks dead on. Roberts' questions appear to make him number 6. Can't wait

iandhr

(6,852 posts)
61. Maybe our Chief Justice will turn into David Souter
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 11:20 AM
Jun 2015

Appointed by a GOP President but turns into a pleasant surprise.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
62. election is coming
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 11:25 AM
Jun 2015

the repubs definitely told them to vote this way. They are f***** in 2016 anyway, but if the SCOTUS had taken health care from millions, americans would have trampled the teaparty and rethugs, same party really, into the ground.

Volaris

(10,281 posts)
98. I took a swim through that sewer earlier in the day...
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 05:58 PM
Jun 2015

It's absolutely as dumb as you think it would be.

calimary

(81,612 posts)
67. I'm freakin' STUNNED!!!! THRILLED!!!!! And relieved.
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 12:32 PM
Jun 2015

We're going to be eligible this year! The open-enrollment program starts again in October here in California. By then, our daughter will be off my insurance because she'll be 26. Our son has his own insurance through his union. And my husband and I can go for joint coverage and save quite a bit of money!

Hmmm... I'm also seeing now that the key piece of the 1968 Fair Housing Act, too. DAYUM! Somebody on the CON side of that bench must be feeling a little guilty these days. Either that, or they're probably sick - just not feeling themselves lately...

WHO THE FUCK CARES!!!!!

Hot Diggity Dog!!!!!! Thank you God!!!!

I'm startled, stunned, shocked, and FUCKING ECSTATIC!!!!!!!!

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
72. Together, let's celebrate Obama's better legacy today
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 01:21 PM
Jun 2015

I still think we should move to a complete public healthcare system, but ACA is a big step in the right direction and an adverse decision in [i[King v. Burwell would have bee a big step backwards.

The court ruling is a victory for Americans.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
90. Roberts had already stuck his neck out once on this one
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 03:17 PM
Jun 2015

and it is a massive windfall for Big Insurance and Big Pharma. No way he was going to reverse course now. This fits in perfectly with his Big Money Always Wins jurisprudence. And that is one of the reasons why he will be in a majority upholding marriage equality. Big Money doesn't care about marriage equality much and to the extent they do they think it's good business.

KrazyinKS

(291 posts)
94. Thank God, that is a relief for me
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 04:10 PM
Jun 2015

I was going to apply for it this fall. Desperately need it. Now STFU is right. But will they?

Cha

(298,152 posts)
101. YES! President Barack Obama's message to the GOP on #ObamaCare's 6-3 SCOTUS win.
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 08:09 PM
Jun 2015


LOLGOP ?@LOLGOP
So heartwarming to see Republicans consoling themselves over the bad news that thousands of people won't go bankrupt if they get sick.
5:09 AM - 25 Jun 2015
258 258 Retweets 259 259 favorites

http://theobamadiary.com/2015/06/25/yes-3/

mahalo, brooklynite~
 

B Calm

(28,762 posts)
109. C-Span Washington Journal this morning is hilarious with right-wingers calling
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 07:30 AM
Jun 2015

in and displaying their ignorance.

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