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still_one

(92,539 posts)
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 10:27 AM Jun 2015

Cato institue Michael Cannon on Bloomberg is going crazy because the ACA was upheld. These right

wingers are really off the edge. Cannon accusing the SC of being unDemocratic.

It is amazing. The fact is that you don't take four words out of context for the whole document.

The SC did good this time


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SamKnause

(13,114 posts)
1. The SC is only Democratic
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 10:31 AM
Jun 2015

when the lunatic right wing get their way.

I have serious issues with the decisions the SC

has made.

Most of them favor the lunatic right wing.

I am glad for their ruling on the ACA.

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
3. It's the Heritage Foundations/Romney's plan.. geesh!
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 10:36 AM
Jun 2015

BFD..the SCOTUS upheld a minimal health insurance plan (instead of single payer REAL healthCARE)

still_one

(92,539 posts)
5. tell that to the 7 million people who are covered. Most folks on DU including me are for single
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 10:46 AM
Jun 2015

payer, but the reality is that it was NOT going to happen, they didn't have the votes, and I am talking about Democratic votes to make it happen. Bayh, both Nelsons, Lieberman, Landrieu, and other blue dogs were NOT going to go for single payer.

I guess it is the view of the glass being half empty or half full, or cursing the darkness because you only have one candle.

You have to start somewhere. Medicare had shortcomings when it was passed, and still does

treestar

(82,383 posts)
6. It is not minimal
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 10:47 AM
Jun 2015

that is what I had before the ACA.

Now everyone is covered if they want to be at a price in sync with their income.

The only exceptions are red state people who can't get medicaid.

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
7. Minimal is not insignificant..
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 10:59 AM
Jun 2015

And millions were helped, but when you are almost poor (not poor enough tp get medicaid) ANY extra expense can bust your budget.

It is definitely BETTER than nothing, but I fear we may have passed up the first real opportunity we had to get European style (good) coverage, for just "better than what we had"..

treestar

(82,383 posts)
8. We can't have passed up an opportunity
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 11:00 AM
Jun 2015

We were never going to get it through the Senate. The public option, let alone single payer.

That's why people have to pay more attention to who gets elected to Congress, rather than that the right President will make it all happen.

still_one

(92,539 posts)
11. Most of us here sympathize with your point, but I just don't think it had a chance with the blue
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 11:27 AM
Jun 2015

dogs that were unwilling to support single payer or a public option at the that time. They only had a 2 year window, because the midterms were very uncertain if the Democrats would still control both houses.

The real possibility is that if people can elect more progressives to Congress than there is a good possibility that single payer can become a reality. Doubtful that will happen before the next census though, due to the gerrymandering that occurred in the house


SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
13. and after the census, you can count on having republicans in charge
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 11:39 AM
Jun 2015

so THEY can dictate the new redistricting.. That;s how they can continue to rule as a minority

Sancho

(9,072 posts)
9. This SC is still crazy. This should have been a 9-0; probably shouldn't have even been heard.
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 11:07 AM
Jun 2015

The plaintiffs should not have standing. The language intent was clear. All these lawsuits only make it as far as they do because of the super conservative justices.

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
14. and you can count on even MORE wacko lawsuits to try and grab any thread
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 11:41 AM
Jun 2015

There are plenty of money-grubbing lawyers and right wing groups to keep filing nuisance lawsuits and judge shopping..

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