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TOON: "This Flag Is About Heritage & Honor!" (Original Post) napkinz Jun 2015 OP
I can only recommend this once! liberal N proud Jun 2015 #1
thanks liberal N proud napkinz Jun 2015 #2
Great Meme Gothmog Jun 2015 #3
let's see how conservatives argue this one napkinz Jun 2015 #4
Why wait? SwankyXomb Jun 2015 #27
... napkinz Jun 2015 #5
K & R SunSeeker Jun 2015 #6
Point, set and match. hifiguy Jun 2015 #7
should be game over ... sad that there are still a number on the right who continue to defend ... napkinz Jun 2015 #17
It existentially amazes me that Kristol hifiguy Jun 2015 #18
So true. yardwork Jun 2015 #21
... napkinz Jun 2015 #22
The Stupid is strong with this one Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2015 #26
and you can be sure Chuck Todd will continue to have him on "Meet The Press" napkinz Jun 2015 #31
has anybody ever looked closely? lame54 Jun 2015 #29
I once witnessed up close and personal the media clown Kristol arguing with Robert Reich. hunter Jun 2015 #32
Two symbolic flags of two vanquished racist nations....should be treated identically. Fred Sanders Jun 2015 #8
yep! napkinz Jun 2015 #14
Museums are indeed the ideal place for racist relics that unfortunately have historical value. Fred Sanders Jun 2015 #16
Wow, both are very powerful... Spazito Jun 2015 #9
in this country, we have politicians who defend the confederate flag; and in Germany ... napkinz Jun 2015 #15
Yes, thank you. You are repeating the point I have been making all along . . . DrBulldog Jun 2015 #10
It's a bigger issue than Slavery! AllTooEasy Jun 2015 #11
Also, both the Confederates and the Nazis wore grey. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2015 #12
K & R! n/t xocet Jun 2015 #13
A Georgetown law professor just perfectly captured the absurdity of Confederate pride napkinz Jun 2015 #19
kick napkinz Jun 2015 #20
Sad Rec. sheshe2 Jun 2015 #23
{{{{sheshe}}}} napkinz Jun 2015 #25
Even sadder is the fact that *that* isn't even the Confederate Flag, it's the Tennessee State Ghost in the Machine Jun 2015 #30
KnR Hekate Jun 2015 #24
K&R Bingo! B Calm Jun 2015 #28
... napkinz Jun 2015 #33
from Being Liberal ... napkinz Jul 2015 #34

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
4. let's see how conservatives argue this one
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 03:11 PM
Jun 2015

I wonder what the FOX crowd -- their pundits and followers -- would say in response to this meme

SwankyXomb

(2,030 posts)
27. Why wait?
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 11:06 PM
Jun 2015

There are plenty of neo-Confederates here at DU willing to try and spin the Dixzi Party line.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
17. should be game over ... sad that there are still a number on the right who continue to defend ...
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 06:59 PM
Jun 2015




 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
18. It existentially amazes me that Kristol
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 07:04 PM
Jun 2015

can manage to get the correct shoe on the correct foot each morning.

He has NEVER been right about ANYTHING. Not one thing. That defies even quantum probabilities.

hunter

(38,354 posts)
32. I once witnessed up close and personal the media clown Kristol arguing with Robert Reich.
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 05:39 PM
Jun 2015

Needless to say, Kristol was destroyed. But he didn't seem to know what had hit him, like some smiling bloody shocked survivor of a car accident who'd just been reassured his insurance was golden, even though he was at fault.

Kristol is either a regressive moron or, generously, a media news "personality" typecast in a Frank Burns role.



I'm pretty sure Kristol is a regressive moron.


 

DrBulldog

(841 posts)
10. Yes, thank you. You are repeating the point I have been making all along . . .
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 04:58 PM
Jun 2015

. . . to most Europeans the Stars and Bars represents the "America Swastika".

AllTooEasy

(1,261 posts)
11. It's a bigger issue than Slavery!
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 05:09 PM
Jun 2015

White Americans outside the South, Asian Americans, Latino-Americans, Native Americans, etc. may not relate to the concept that the Confederate Battle flag represents slavery...or even an affront to the Civil Rights Movement.

...but it should represent an Enemy Force to all US citizens. The Confederacy was a NATION that had it's own:

1) President
2) Congress
3) Constitution
4) Ambassadors
5) Currency
6) Capital City

...and this Nation:

1) Killed and estimated 360,00 US soldiers. https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Union_Army
2) Wounded an estimated 280,000 US soldiers. https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Union_Army
3) Invaded the US via the VA/MD border on Sept 4th, 1862 (http://mdscv.org/1398/river%20crossing.htm) and killed or wounded over 12,000 Americans(http://www.nps.gov/anti/learn/historyculture/casualties.htm) before being pushed back by patriotic US soldiers.

You don't have to be Black to understand why this flag and Confederate "heroes" should never be praised on US soil. The Viet Cong, Nazis, Imperial Japanese Navy, King George III, and all combined terrorist organizations did less harm to the America. Even the US's racists should be disgusted by any honor a confederate receives on US soil.






napkinz

(17,199 posts)
19. A Georgetown law professor just perfectly captured the absurdity of Confederate pride
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 07:35 PM
Jun 2015

Chris Weller
Jun. 24, 2015



It has been 150 years since the Civil War officially ended, but take a trip to certain regions in the South and you may get a different impression. Especially since last week's shooting in South Carolina, the Confederate battle flag has become an iconic and often unwelcome reminder that race relations in the US still face a staggering uphill battle. But some people still wave the flag with pride, and Georgetown University law professor Paul Butler has some words for those people.

On a Monday episode of "The Diane Rehm Show," a caller said her Confederate ancestors deserved respect, even though the Confederate flag represented "racial hatred." To which Butler replied:

I have no respect for your ancestors. As far as your ancestors are concerned, I shouldn't be a law professor at Georgetown. I should be a slave. That's why they fought that war. I don't understand what it means to be proud of a legacy of terrorism and violence.

Last week at this time, I was in Israel. The idea that a German would say, you know, that thing we did called the Holocaust, that was wrong, but I respect the courage of my Nazi ancestors. That wouldn't happen.

The reason people can say what you said in the United States, is because, again, black life just doesn't matter to a lot of people.

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/georgetown-professor-uses-the-holocaust-to-capture-confederate-pride-nonsense-2015-6#ixzz3e7Uf14tB

Ghost in the Machine

(14,912 posts)
30. Even sadder is the fact that *that* isn't even the Confederate Flag, it's the Tennessee State
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 07:20 AM
Jun 2015

Battle Flag, but dumb rednecks everywhere don't even know that! I live in East TN, where we broke off from the rest of the State and fought FOR the Union! Many people don't know *that* fact, either!

Peace, sheshe2...

Ghost

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
34. from Being Liberal ...
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 02:33 PM
Jul 2015



(W) THIS is one of the best comments left by one of our fans:

"l I'm related to three different Nazis (one great-great uncle and some distant cousins). Can you imagine the outcry if I went around waving their flag around and said how "It's not anti-Semitic, it's my heritage!"? And the reaction would be completely justified. But in this case, it's "just heritage", a heritage that enslaved an entire group of people. Yes, it IS your heritage, but it is not something to be fucking proud of! People are so hypocritical sometimes, it's infuriating." - Donna J.D.

https://www.facebook.com/beingliberal.org/photos/a.180479986274.135777.177486166274/10153058225686275/
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