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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsOf course the Supreme Court affirmed ACA subsidies - it's a CONSERVATIVE court
At least, that's what gun control advocates on DU tell me.
The point is that Big Insurance wants those obscene profits, and it wants them now - and if subsidies are struck down, that cuts into the industry's bottom line when the policyholders can no longer pay the premiums.
Today's a very good day if you're the CEO of UnitedHealthcare. The rest of us are still waiting for the day when affordable healthcare becomes a human right in America.
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)The three most conservative justices?
derby378
(30,252 posts)Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)The program has improved the lives of millions of middle class and poor Americans. It is not a perfect system by any means, Like Social Security and the Civil Rights Act, it will go through a long period of incremental improvement, at least as long as we don't allow the Neanderthal party to stay in control too long.
I also don't get why Gun Control Advocates are singled out. The anticorporate left are more likely to take excption.
But I for one am glad they upheld it. I have friends and relatives in stats that would have been hammered by the Conservative wet dream of repealing the ACA.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)the rest of us.
Bernie Sanders agrees with this decision. Ted Cruz and the Teabaggers are the ones who are complaining.
If you're suggesting that the only three honest justices are Alito, Thomas and Scalia, you've gone off the deep end.
That's all you really need to know.
derby378
(30,252 posts)I'm glad those who need the subsidies are getting them. This whole process, however, has become a convoluted nightmare for our party.
truebluegreen
(9,033 posts)although there are (count 'em) 3 whacks whose anti-government ideology even overrides their corporate ass-kissing.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)You know who Bernie Sanders is, right?
just lol.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Millions of people are keeping their coverage.
That's a good thing for people who care about other people.
Also, note that the only three judges to dissent were the three worst justices of the modern era-Scalia, Alito, and Thomas.
The liberal judges voted to keep the subsidies.
Also, the ruling was the correct legal one.
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)This is what we learn from "progressives" today. People must suffer first. It's the ONLY WAY!!!
ProdigalJunkMail
(12,017 posts)just have a gander and tell me what WALL STREET thinks of it :
https://www.google.com/finance?q=NYSE%3AUNH&ei=7WOMVbCZHIaSmAGG04Fw
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geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)day had it gone the other way.
The sane people are glad this ruling turned out like it did.
ProdigalJunkMail
(12,017 posts)who would say this is all about the people who get to keep the subsidies. it is good that they do... AND it is very good for the health insurance sector.
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geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)this was kind of like avoiding a meteor strike. Everyone benefits from avoiding it, including corporations.
The Terrible Three were willing to vote for a meteor strike. that's the mentality
ProdigalJunkMail
(12,017 posts)or at the very least something that will stretch out the goal of single payer... probably past my lifetime. but i could be wrong...
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randome
(34,845 posts)Give it some time here. Just because something is good for business does not automatically make it bad for everyone not in that business.
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Spazito
(50,645 posts)Here's a good timeline on how it began to where extra-billing was banned.
http://www.bestlibrary.org/ss11/files/History.pdf
randome
(34,845 posts)Eventually I think we'll have single payer, especially once more of the whiny Republicans die out.
But as for the OP's contention that healthcare is not now affordable, a lot of people would disagree with that since ACA (well, except for some POSUCS-slingers).
Should it be more affordable? Absolutely.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]If you're not committed to anything, you're just taking up space.
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Spazito
(50,645 posts)because, in Canada the federal government has primacy whereas the US has state primacy, very different Constitutions as well as governance structures. The federal government in the US is much more limited as to what it can do than the federal government in Canada.
I do think it will happen but will be more likely to have to be a state by state change as opposed to a federally mandated program.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)that would be just too much systemic shock, with too many unknowns and unpredictability surrounding the outcome
First, it needs to work in a place like Vermont, where it collapsed because there wasn't the political will to say "yeah, taxes will have to go up."
Arkana
(24,347 posts)You thought that if the ACA had died today that somehow we'd have gotten closer to single-payer?
That's like a little kid strangling his pet cat so maybe Mommy and Daddy will buy him a new dog.
NYC Liberal
(20,138 posts)alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)There there.