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In a blog post Thursday, Sarah Palins daughter Bristol Palin revealed some big news. Five weeks after she announced she had called off her wedding to Sgt. Dakota Meyer at the last minute, Palin informed her readers that she is pregnant with her second child.
Honestly, Ive been trying my hardest to keep my chin up on this one, she wrote. At the end of the day theres nothing I cant do with God by my side, and I know I am fully capable of handling anything that is put in front of me with dignity and grace.
I know this has been, and will be, a huge disappointment to my family, to my close friends, and to many of you, Palin added. But please respect Tripps and my privacy during this time. I do not want any lectures and I do not want any sympathy.
It has been nearly seven years since Palins first pregnancy, with then-boyfriend Levi Johnston, became national news in the midst of her mothers vice presidential candidacy announcement. She gave birth to Tripp Johnston in December 2008 and ended her engagement with Levi three months later.
http://www.mediaite.com/online/bristol-palin-is-pregnant-again-a-huge-disappointment-to-my-family/
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Who gives a damn whether her kid is 'legitimate' or not?
What's disgusting is the X-tian hype and hypocrisy on display, and the Palin family's propensity to turn it all to profit.
How about sticking the 'baby mama' label on her like they do on single WOC?
Response to Surya Gayatri (Original post)
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Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)First of all you dont need to live in a trailer to be trailer trash, and only a small percentage of ppl who actually do live in a trailer are considered trailer trash...
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=trailer+trash
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)Or at least liberals/progressives stop using words and phrases they have been told are offensive, like "all lives matter".
Is the standard now that it is OK to use any term listed in the Urban Dictionary?
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=nigger+rig
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)That's a new one on the PC 'NO-NO' list. Who knew? I certainly didn't.
aikoaiko
(34,186 posts)DrDan
(20,411 posts)I have known some very fine folks who lived in "trailers". They certainly did not deserve to be labeled as "trash". Not sure anyone does.
Glad the OP was changed.
Jamastiene
(38,187 posts)I love my little hovel. It's mine. I could never have afforded a brick house, but was able to work out a rent to own deal to finally own my home. It's a hovel, but it's mine and I always vote for Democrats. Thanks for pointing that out.
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)I agree with you wholeheartedly.
romanic
(2,841 posts)And let's be real, when something stinks, you gotta call it trash.
dballance
(5,756 posts)I lived in a trailer during my formative years.
Bristol Palin has lived in a trailer and has done everything possible to be a person one should never emulate. There is nothing about her that should be respectable nor held up as a good thing.
Bristol has become pregnant out of wedlock not on just one occasion, but now twice. She apparently cannot actually respect her God and keep her legs shut.
It is very clear that Bristol Palin favors carnal knowledge of a man over being pure and not being an adulter. Bristol has now become pregnant out of wedlock not once, but twice. Her ability to opine about morality is shattered.
joshcryer
(62,287 posts)Which only underscores the point.
dballance
(5,756 posts)Maybe she'll get her tubes tied this time so she can pretend that she only had sex twice in her life and continue on the charade.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)A lot of women in her situation don't have that much going for them.
And I'm not even being sarcastic.
Me, I just thank the God I don't believe in I wasn't born into a family like that.
Hayduke Bomgarte
(1,965 posts)Agreed. No doubt whatever, though it won't stop her from doing it anyway.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)Backsliders who return to the fold are prized and their stories are celebrated among the brethren and sistern, some of these folks do this stuff on a damn near weekly basis. We are all sinners, what you do is not nearly as important to many fundies as what you profess to believe, if she says the right words in the right tone it's not only forgiven but used as an example for others to follow.
Sistah Bristol was saved from a life of sin by the powah of the Lawd!
Say Amen!
Say Hallelujah!
Praise Jesus!
joshcryer
(62,287 posts)...then she should do the responsible thing and come out for sex education. Simple as that. If you believe getting pregnant merits "disappointment" (it's not, it happens, even using proper contraceptives) then you should be for prevention, not shame politics.
Her self-shaming only underscores her own belief in disappointment in herself. There's nothing wrong with sex, there's nothing wrong with getting pregnant (though there are some downsides to poorer people who don't make hundreds of thousands a year shilling for abstinent programs, it's not something to be shamed over).
What's wrong is telling people the objectively wrong way to go about sexual relations (abstinence) and then shaming them for not being that way when you yourself are a hypocrite of the highest order.
Coming clean about the failure of abstinence programs is simply the only way Bristol Palin clears her image. Any other attempts should be mocked and ridiculed.
AndreaCG
(2,331 posts)trusty elf
(7,405 posts)as a spokeswoman for some abstinence group?
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)http://rhrealitycheck.org/article/2011/04/06/roundup-bristol-makesquarter-million-abstinence-spokesperson/
Abstinence and Hypocrisy: Bristol Palin is Pregnant
June 25, 2015
Palin deserves a lecture on hypocrisy, on the power of celebrity, and the failure of abstinence-only sex education.
But Palin also deserves our sympathy. Nobody should be worried about disappointing friends and family by announcing a pregnancy. The fact that Palin anticipates such disappointment reflects the poverty and emptiness of those traditional family values conservative Christians are always talking about.
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/progressivesecularhumanist/2015/06/abstinence-and-hypocrisy-bristol-palin-is-pregnant/
trusty elf
(7,405 posts)Wow, you said it, their hypocrisy knows no bounds. It never ceases to amaze me!
treestar
(82,383 posts)I mean surely they can find someone who actually lives by what they preach.
global1
(25,298 posts)surely she didn't write that on her own.
no_hypocrisy
(46,324 posts)Maybe it's her.
Javaman
(62,540 posts)Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)That's much of the fundamentalist mindset, we are all sinners and what you profess to believe is much more important than what you actually do, particularly if you are publicly and emotionally repenting some horrid sin.
It sounds nuts but I grew up in that atmosphere to some extent and yeah, the backslider who repents is a rock star at church.
spanone
(135,953 posts)Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)aka-chmeee
(1,132 posts)the words "dignity and grace" can be used in connection with that outfit in any context other perhaps than satire.
GOLGO 13
(1,681 posts)And I'm going to assume that this pregnancy was the reason her ex-fiance called off the wedding. Dakota Meyer likes a pretty face too & is too smart to fall for the okie-doke.
Nice save Dakota!
Malraiders
(444 posts)Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)nruthie
(466 posts)DetlefK
(16,423 posts)And why did she cancel the wedding?
Was it her that canceled the wedding or the groom-to-be?
Why would he cancel a wedding with the woman pregnant with his child, when right before he was ready for this marriage?
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)Is that what good Christians think of that perfect form growing in her uteus...a disaapointment? Lets hope this wonderful child blessed by God, never reads any of Bristol's statements. I suppose they can brag that at least it was never aborted.
I suppose it must be Bristol meant something different that a disappointing child. And we (the rest of the little people watching the drama unfold) must all make the herculean effort to embrace and understand they (the fundies)are not talking about God's perfect creation being a disappointment.
HOWEVER...AND IN CONTAST
Obama, mentions an unwanted pg is a mistake, and gawd almighty the entire world comes crashing in on Chrstendom. That Obama dare verbalize that a God's perfect creation is considered a mistake. Doesn't matter what he really meant, the fundies and especially the Palin clan, made sure to broadcast what a nasty disgusting, moral-less, petty thing Obama said.
I suppose it's just another case of fundy hypocricy.
UtahLib
(3,179 posts)hootinholler
(26,449 posts)White-Trash: This is racist as hell. Not because it insults white people, but because it asserts that the worst white people are better than the best people of color.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)Un-freaking-believable.
hootinholler
(26,449 posts)Yea, un-freaking-believable. Let me get this straight, you changed trailer-trash to white-trash?
How quaint.
MineralMan
(146,354 posts)After objections, it was changed to "white-trash." After further objections, it was changed to its current wording. All versions are still available for viewing, though.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)quaint
adjective \ˈkwānt\
: having an old-fashioned or unusual quality or appearance that is usually attractive or appealing
MineralMan
(146,354 posts)Why does anyone care what Bristol Palin says or does? That's what I don't understand.
She is completely unimportant in every way.
There's no reason for this post at all, in my opinion.
That is especially true when it comes to your "white-trash" epithet. Please don't use that expression on DU. You can still edit your OP. I encourage you to do so.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)I didn't make her up! Really!
MineralMan
(146,354 posts)She is just a young pregnant woman. We should leave her and all other young women who are pregnant alone.
Plus, your "white-trash" crap is way over the top, in my opinion. I don't think you have even thought about what that expression means, really. People are not "trash." The phrase is racist and classist. It should not be allowed on DU, again in my opinion.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)MineralMan
(146,354 posts)I respectfully decline your kind invitation.
I don't like the term "white-trash" any more than I like any other terms that categorize any group of people. My real objection is to your use of that expression. Bristol Palin is not really of any importance to anyone but herself. You think she is "white-trash." Who else fits that description in your mind?
When you post on DU, you invite comment. I'm happy to accept that invitation in this case.
ETA: Thanks for editing your post title.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)MineralMan
(146,354 posts)I did go back and check all of the versions. So, you doubled down from "trailer-trash" to "white-trash?" From bad to worse. Thank goodness you changed it again.
Sensibilities, indeed!
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)plural sen·si·bil·i·ties
Full Definition of SENSIBILITY
1
: ability to receive sensations : sensitiveness <tactile sensibility>
2
: peculiar susceptibility to a pleasurable or painful impression (as from praise or a slight) often used in plural
3
: awareness of and responsiveness toward something (as emotion in another)
4
: refined or excessive sensitiveness in emotion and taste with especial responsiveness to the pathetic
Go Vols
(5,902 posts)On Fri Jun 26, 2015, 12:43 PM an alert was sent on the following post:
Second time...FWIW. Had to cater to trailer-dweller sensibilities the first time.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6907607
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How classist and condescending toward another DUer. He edited out trailer-trash and white-trash to "cater to trailer-dweller sensibilities".
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Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)Wash. state Desk Jet
(3,426 posts)Sometimes I think it's more like chronic swearing ,some people use cuss as a means of expression ,others have little vocabulary.
I guess they run out of thought and trash for talk or what could appear to be some kind of ill formed opinion seems to fill in the void for them.
Perhaps if they do not have people, places and things to look down upon they can have no sense of relevance or some sense of importance about the self.
Ignorance comes to mind, I suppose everybody gets caught up in it every so now and again.
Little pink houses for you and me.
By the way you left out arrogant and stupidity !
Please excuse the stupidity of some people around here and do not help it to spread !
They do however serve to remind us to think more carefully about those words which can cause hurt to others even though it was not intended.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)it has everything to do with hypocrisy. She stands by mommy dearest in her rw religious hate and then comes to us and say - gee I'm pregnant again and don't you dare lecture me.
There are a lot of women who have been in her shoes. But they did not stand around pointing fingers at others in the same situation.