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http://www.msnewsnow.com/story/29472787/shelby-church-to-fly-christian-flag-over-american-flagBut this Fourth of July weekend, one Shelby flag pole will be reassessing its priorities. On Sunday, Pastor Rit Varriale will raise the Christian flag above the American flag in front of Elizabeth Baptist Church.
"Our typical flag etiquette is to have the American flag above the Christian flag. But when you stop and think about it, it should be our commitment to God first, then our commitment to country," Varriale said....
"As I was changing the rope one day, the Lord just laid on me that he is first and when he told me that, I switched the flags around," Wilson said.
Why do these people hate America so much?
randys1
(16,286 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)The Christian Flag is a flag designed in the early 20th century to represent all of Christianity and Christendom,[1] and has been most popular among Christian churches in North America, Africa and Latin America. [2] The flag has a white field, with a red Latin cross inside a blue canton. The shade of red on the cross symbolizes the blood that Jesus shed on Calvary.[3] The blue represents the waters of baptism as well as the faithfulness of Jesus.[4] The white represents Jesus' purity.[5] In conventional vexillology, a white flag is linked to surrender, a reference to the Biblical description of Jesus' non-violence and surrender to God.[6] The dimensions of the flag and canton have no official specifications.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)Though once I saw the picture, it is something I've seen before.
krispos42
(49,445 posts)I was married to the daughter of a part-time Baptist minister (now on hubby #3, with two kids from hubby #2 born out of wedlock), and the first time I saw that flag was when I attended some function at her private Christian high school.
There's a pledge, too. Guess what the rhythm and meter is.
yuiyoshida
(41,872 posts)randys1
(16,286 posts)cwydro
(51,308 posts)Wow.
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gratuitous
(82,849 posts)At our annual conference (held in various venues around the country), we respectfully request the facility where we're meeting to remove any flags in the meeting areas for the duration of our conference. We regard it for ourselves as a form of idolatry.
Personally, I've noticed too many Christians getting their symbols confused and as a result their priorities can get confused also. Pastor Varriale seems to have had a new thought develop in his mind. He might want to check in with his congregation about the wisdom of flying any flag out front.
Judging from the comments to the story, Pastor Varriale might find out what actual persecution entails, instead of the "persecution" of "not everyone agrees with my point of view, which is all godly and stuff."
Solly Mack
(90,803 posts)A Little Weird
(1,754 posts)Don't think I've ever seen it in front of any other church.
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)xmas74
(29,682 posts)At least at most of the churches I've been at. The only time I've watched it used in a Methodist church is during Boy Scout and Girl Scout Sunday and even then it's a bit of an afterthought.
None of the Methodist churches I've attended have ever had it actually flying out front.
Cirque du So-What
(26,032 posts)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Flag
longship
(40,416 posts)That is why I never salute, stand, or put my hand on my heart over a piece of cloth.
And the "Star Spangled Banner" is fucking unsingable. So I don't even sing it.
My one allegiance was expressed when I applied for, and was granted, a top secret clearance (don't ask). And also when I taught high school mathematics in Calofornia. Both, as working in a government funded job, required a background check (the DOD top secret clearance somewhat more invasive) and swearing an oath, not to a fucking flag, but to uphold the Constitution of the United States. Well, in the case of the top secret thing there was also not flapping ones gums under some rather severe penalties.
But I do not pledge my allegiance to a flag and as I public school teacher for years I never did.
msongs
(67,502 posts)humongous scale? no thanks
joeybee12
(56,177 posts)onenote
(42,849 posts)How could you have posted 50,000 times and not yet learned what treason is and isn't?
kcdoug1
(222 posts)This whole story is VERY clearly laid out. See chapters 6-66 in the book of Stupidshitimadeup... it's inbetween Mark and James and that other dude!
TlalocW
(15,394 posts)Trying to figure out what design would best symbolize their devotion to a guy who said love your neighbor?
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Nevernose
(13,081 posts)Do the people who fly them think the rest of us don't know what country we're in? I guess it makes sense if you fly them along an unmarked border...
The only country I've ever been to that waves their own flag as much as the U.S. is China (with France close behind).
pintobean
(18,101 posts)We do it to keep you wondering.
yuiyoshida
(41,872 posts)Seems most agree that flying their flag above the Country's flag is just wrong and the church should lose their tax free status. Sure, why not!