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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHow disappointing to see Bill Clinton pal around with a terrorist/ war criminal
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/07/george-w-bush-bill-clinton-discuss-campaign-surrogacy-partisanship-grandkids-119939.htmlGWB seems very close to Clinton in the photo.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)tularetom
(23,664 posts)Are you saying that they are laughing at President Obama's expense? Or are you saying "brother from another mother" is somehow a racial expression?
tularetom
(23,664 posts)But I would not be at all surprised, given some of Bill Clinton's past little racist innuendos directed toward Obama, that they have enjoyed a good chortle or two at his expense.
CBGLuthier
(12,723 posts)wikipedia URL does not display correctly. Google 1998 Iraq bombing campaign.
It is the rare US president who does not have a little blood on his hands.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Also, there were a few things Poppy couldn't manage to pull off during his one-term Presidency. Clinton, our first official DLC President, was the closer. NAFTA leaps to mind.
Cal Carpenter
(4,959 posts)by repeatedly vetoing the effort that every other country supported.
Lesley Stahl on U.S. sanctions against Iraq: We have heard that a half million children have died. I mean, thats more children than died in Hiroshima. And, you know, is the price worth it?
Secretary of State Madeleine Albright: I think this is a very hard choice, but the pricewe think the price is worth it.
60 Minutes (5/12/96)
CincyDem
(6,419 posts)CBGLuthier
(12,723 posts)without killing anyone. He really is and was a good man. And an exception to the bloody rule of 20th century presidents.
CincyDem
(6,419 posts)I've always heard the phrase "Carter never ordered an offensive shot fired" but I couldn't fund any substantiation. Seems like it's true but I thought I'd throw it up there more as a question vs. statement of fact.
I'm always amazed when I hear the stat that the US has been at was for something like 200 out of 240 years and that war is our most profitable export. Sheesh.
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)documenting their relationship. For example:
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/03/05/george-h-w-bush-on-bonding-with-bill-clinton/
In this updated collection of letters, e-mails and other writings, "All The Best, George Bush; My Life in Letters and other Writings," Mr. Bush recounts the unlikely journey the two travelled to become so close today.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)said, we ain't in it. I wouldn't want to be.
SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)I realize people at the top have to work together and be reasonably civil, but anyone who could behave toward Barbara in such a way (very personally close and friendly, apparently) as to elicit that comment ain't my kind of person. She's just horrible. She doesn't deserve even common courtesy, but I would give her that - and ONLY that.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)"Am I the only person in the entire United States of America who likes both George Bush and John Kerry, who believes they're both good people, who believes they both love our country and they just see the world differently?"
Yes you are.
ctsnowman
(1,903 posts)olddots
(10,237 posts)Diplomacy is one thing ,being worm is another .
B Calm
(28,762 posts)hell, but at least he don't pal around with the Bush Crime Family!
The Clintons were adopted into the "Big Club" as Carlin called it. The Obamas have been too.
It's discouraging that the Bushes have been in total control of the executive and probably other branches since 1980...and will continue to be.
bvar22
(39,909 posts)or will he have to use the servants entrance in back.
Hydra
(14,459 posts)tularetom
(23,664 posts)moondust
(20,027 posts)Isn't it wonderful?!!
democrank
(11,115 posts)Yesterday I watched about a half hour of this lovefest on CNN. At one point, President Clinton covered Bush`s hand with his own and left it there for some time. The CNN anchor even mentioned it. I`m certainly a fan of civility between politicians when possible, but this was far beyond that. Personally, my value system wouldn`t allow me to be that close with a war criminal.
Unknown Beatle
(2,672 posts)"Byrdes of on kynde and color flok and flye allwayes together."
jomin41
(559 posts)Pardon me while I hurl chunks.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)moron for a long time. I actually bought the whole game that was being played.
snagglepuss
(12,704 posts)behind the photo - was it a fluke they were at the same table or was their some sort of relationship?
jwirr
(39,215 posts)jwirr
(39,215 posts)a few of our elections in the late 1990s and early 2000s.
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)snagglepuss
(12,704 posts)Please consider doing a OP. Thanks for posting.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)Per Reddit (and other sources) ...
http://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/2gb6sv/future_presidents_bill_clinton_and_george_bush/
snagglepuss
(12,704 posts)rurallib
(62,483 posts)they could learn a few things.
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)Two Peas in a Pod.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)There are worse things in the world than ex-presidents from different parties being cordial with one another.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)Not to mention that any 'cause' the Bushes have ever been involved in, has turned out, as the 'education' project for Katrina victims, eg, to be most profitable for THEM.
Corrupt, war criminals should be prosecuted.
I can't think of anything worse frankly, than for a country to be willing to move forward from massive War Crimes and then treat their war criminals as if they were elder statespersons. It is truly sickening when I think of all the victims, including our own soldiers.
AND maybe you will see not much wrong with this either, apparently it IS legal, Bush charged Veterans $100,000 to listen to him 'speak' this past week.
I guess we have very different views of what is okay morally for politicians assuming they care about people's opinions of them, or about right and wrong, to get involved in.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Sort of hard to not be involved with any war criminals if you are.
In fact, there are some who would argue that Bill Clinton himself is a war criminal.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)change of foreign policies and most of all, leadership.
lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)kentuck
(111,111 posts)How could it?
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)Hepburn
(21,054 posts)I wanted to puke when I saw this buddy-buddy bull shit.
madokie
(51,076 posts)KamaAina
(78,249 posts)magical thyme
(14,881 posts)Duppers
(28,134 posts)F 'em.
K&R
spanone
(135,950 posts)John Poet
(2,510 posts)I was rather disturbed to be running across a number of websites which had to do with allegations about the Bushes and drug-running, going all the way back to Iran-Contra,
some of which ALSO sought to tie Bill Clinton into the same allegations as being somehow involved with them...
something about an airport in Arkansas supposedly being used as a drug entry point while Bill was Governor....
Don't recall the exact details as I really didn't want to know,
I wasn't there to hunt up any dirt on Bill Clinton,
but I do recall thinking at the time,
"If all that were true, it would certainly help to explain the 'closeness' of their two families...."
Anyway, I am disgusted with the Clinton affinity for the Bushes.
The phrase 'sleeping with the enemy' comes to mind...
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,719 posts)Jerry Falwell and his associates claimed Bill Clinton was running a drug smuggling ring.
cocaine-smuggling operation when he was governor of that state, spread from
local talk radio shows to propaganda videos to the mainstream media, and
eventually prompted an exhaustive, multimillion-dollar investigation by the
House Banking Committee in 1994. The investigation concluded Clinton had
nothing to do with the drug operation.
In another instance, in March, 1995, the Arkansas represenative of Citizens
for Honest Government signed a contract agreeing to pay two Arkansa state
troopers who had made questionable allegations supporting the theory that
the late White House Counsel Vincent Foster had been murdered. The
troopers, Roger Perry and Larry Patteson, who had previously told news
organizations about Clintons alleged extramarital affairs, had provided
information about Fosters death to Kenneth Starr, the Whitewater
independent counsel.
The drug smuggling and Vincent Foster allegations were prominently featured
in The Clinton Chronicles, a video produced by Citizens for Honest Government
and co-financed, publicized and distributed by Falwell. The notorious 1994 video
also insinuated that Clintons political adversaries often met untimely and
suspicious deaths.
http://www.salon.com/1998/03/11/cov_11news/
But I can not find any suggestion he did it at the behest of the Bushes. I hope I helped you research.
John Poet
(2,510 posts)but it would seem to reveal the original source. I didn't realize the drug traffic allegations were originally part of "The Clinton Chronicles" garbage.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,719 posts)eom
whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)Last edited Sat Jul 11, 2015, 11:06 AM - Edit history (1)
It's about to happen again.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)It's really very sad. Depressing actually.
Things changed completely the day the Supreme Court selected Bush. If any day can be said to represent the fall of our Constitutional government and our Democracy it's that day. We just don't seem to get it yet. We hardly even remember that day anymore, still going along with the pretend game that our country is a great Democracy.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)have you insinuated are You Better Believe It? Beyond lame.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)olddots
(10,237 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)The Chimp said he regards HRC as a "sister in law."
A more damning comment I cannot imagine.
Vultures of a feather united in their never-ending service to the plutocrats.
GoneOffShore
(17,346 posts)They'll excuse it by saying that they are members of a very exclusive club.
sendero
(28,552 posts).... that no matter who is in the office of the president, the high-level agenda remains the same.