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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBill Clinton goes off message: Calls Romney's Bain Career 'Sterling'
Bill Clinton became the most prominent Democrat to go off message and disavow President Obama's strategy of attacking Mitt Romney's work at Bain Capital. "I don't think we ought to get into the position where we say, 'this is bad work,'" said Clinton. "This is good work.'"
Clinton told guest host Harvey Weinstein that Romney "had a sterling business career," and gave a lengthy defense of his work at the firm:
"If you go in and you try to save a failing company, and you and I have friends here who invest in companies, you can invest in a company, run up the debt, loot it, sell all the assets, and force all the people to lose their retirement and fire them. Or you can go into a company, have cutbacks, try to make it more productive with the purpose of saving it. And when you try, like anything else you try, you don't always succeed."
http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2012/06/clinton-calls-romneys-bain-career-sterling.html?mid=rss
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)wtf Bill.
Ichingcarpenter
(36,988 posts)That defends his time at Bain.
Why give them ammo?
sendero
(28,552 posts)... all politicians are on the side of big money, Clinton, Romney, Obama, you name 'em. ALL OF THEM.
Civilization2
(649 posts)bill more than most, he sucks up to the old Bush I as well,. being a power-whore is non-partisan condition, and bill is one through and though,. pro-bankster 1%, recall he is the guy who removed regulations on the banks that led to 2008.
sendero
(28,552 posts).. ushered in the decline of the middle class. But it was Clinton who opened the one-way trade floodgate with China and it was Clinton that signed the DISASTROUS legislation (Commodity Futures Modernization Act, and others) that turned the banksters loose.
I liked Clinton and he did do a lot of good things, but he certainly was ready willing and able to end welfare as we know it and implement lots of the Reps agenda, and seemed to have the same problem Obama has, always trying to please the Republicans but never succeeding.
BeyondGeography
(39,400 posts)other than lifetime suck-ups?
Ichingcarpenter
(36,988 posts)Good work Bill.......Not
kentuck
(111,111 posts)Mitt Romney was mostly a "private equity" guy. When Bain Capital got involved with "venture capital", they usually got involved with 5 or 6 other firms, as they did with Staples. They were not in a position to ruin the company all by themselves, and get away with the loot.
marmar
(77,131 posts)nt
HughBeaumont
(24,461 posts)Fuck "Third Way" appeaser Dems. Clinton ushered in the game-set-match era of "no economic choice" among Democratic presidential candidates, leading to two Milton Friedman parties only divided by social issues.
Which, when it comes down to what matters for your wallet, is nothing to go on.
justiceischeap
(14,040 posts)the 2nd most hated Dem President? He already has problems with the Repub base and having Clinton defend his record isn't going to sit well with them, IMO, anyway.
kentuck
(111,111 posts)like it did with Corey Booker. Yes, they will use Bill Clinton in the same way.
GoCubsGo
(32,103 posts)He's just giving the teabagger wing, who already don't like Romney, yet another reason to stay home in November. However, I think that his repeating the misleading "He saved businesses." meme deserves a huge facepalm.
4_TN_TITANS
(2,977 posts)Could this not be part of the plan to sour conservatives from voting? I can't think of a better way to turn off the older Clenisphobic crowd...
Arkana
(24,347 posts)"I stand with Bill Clinton".
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)bahrbearian
(13,466 posts)loyalsister
(13,390 posts)It raises expectations for his term as governor and discredits his justification for his candidacy.
They have started the narrative about business experience not translating to a successful presidency. If his formula works, he should have been a "stellar" governor, too.
GeorgeGist
(25,328 posts)Hawkowl
(5,213 posts)Maybe he will STFU! then. Greedy motherfuckers all stick together.
enough
(13,273 posts)for 4 more years.
boomerbust
(2,181 posts)Bubba was the ultimate Blue Dog. Ya, just what we need to hear in Wisconsin.
KharmaTrain
(31,706 posts)Remember, Bain owns media...either directly (Cheap Channel...the largest purveyor of hate radio in the world) or through spreading a lot of green around. The other day we learned that the billionaire SuperPacs will spend over $1 BILLION dollars...a lion's share going to the large media corporates (including Bain). With all that green comes the allegiance of the stenographers who will paint any story about President Obama in as negative a light as posible and prop up Rmoney.
The truth is Bain is Rmoney's achillies heel...something people are and do glam onto once they understand the Bain "business model". Bill Clinton doesn't know someone who was laid off by a vulture capitalist but millions of Americans do. Bill does know what they like for dinner...and that's the disconnect.
The more contentious the election, the more money the right wing will throw at the corporates...
deutsey
(20,166 posts)JHB
(37,166 posts)...they simply weren't "profitable enough" by Wall Street wheeler-dealer standards, and had assets that could be converted into cash to pay off the new management and its investors.
AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)99Forever
(14,524 posts).. one little bit.
Myrina
(12,296 posts)Because we all know The Clenis is Satan personified, in their minds.
SHRED
(28,136 posts)Arkana
(24,347 posts)It's one thing for a low-level subordinate to sound like an idiot, but now Romney gets to have the Bill Clinton stamp of approval!
siligut
(12,272 posts)Being a sterling fox doesn't make that fox a good guard for the hen-house.
Bluerthanblue
(13,669 posts)for the office in his opinion.
Pres. Clinton said :"... getting up and going to the office and, you know, basically performing the essential functions of the office, the man who has been governor and had a sterling business career crosses the qualification threshold."
siligut
(12,272 posts)OK, now I wonder what is going on and where Clinton is coming from. I won't rule out brainwashing in this case.
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)WI_DEM
(33,497 posts)He really needs to go on the attack against Romney.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)Maybe Bill is just getting a bit senile. I hope thats the reason.
shcrane71
(1,721 posts)It happens.
Odin2005
(53,521 posts)JHB
(37,166 posts)...and in 1992 he was arguably the most conservative of the Democratic primary contenders. At very least, he was the one most on-board with Reaganite trickle-down economics.
Hell, that was part of the reason why the Bush team and conservatives launched the whole "draft-dodgin' dope-smokin' renounced-his-citizenship-when-visiting-the-USSR and OMG that stay-at-home-mom-hating monster Hillary" attacks: the old playbook they used against Carter, Mondale, and Dukakis would just fall flat. So they inflated everything they could and made up still more. And ironically, those attacks prompted far too many liberal Democrats to view him as "one of us" and not hold his feet to the fire about a whole raft of radical policies that are now labeled "centrist".
Bill Clinton is a hellava politician, and that's not necessarily a bad thing. But never mistake him for something he's not just because circumstances put us on the same side.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)One thing we should have learned about the Repugs ,Corporatists, RW Repug and MIC fanatics.... Always look carefully when they make a huge fuss about something. There's always something different going on that they are trying to cover up. We are often pointed in the opposite direction by the Mainstream Corporate Media than where we should be looking for the real information.
And many of us Dems got so caught up in defending Clinton because the RW'ers were so crazy and agressive in going after both Clintons that we weren't really noticing what was going on behind the scenes. We got NAFTA at the beginning but it was followed with Vince Foster and wild stories about Hillary...then in second term crazy Newt along with "Monica Gate Witch Hunt" and then we got the "Welfare Reform Act, Commodities Futures Reform Act and repeal of Glass-Steagall.
I've never understood how the Clintons put up with all of that plus the Starr Investigation and seem to have not had it make them work harder to push reforms. Instead they've both done very well and not suffered psychic damage from any of it.
ananda
(28,926 posts)I just can't tell any more.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)Why blame him for acting like exactly what he is and has always been?
I swear I think Big Dog's red blood cells are triangular..
MisterP
(23,730 posts)either they didn't pressure them enough, or they didn't vote in 80 FDR Democrats--an argument that becomes even funnier when those same PMCs repeatedly torpedo the campaigns of the people they blame the voters for not electing (Romanoff, Halter, Sestak, Winograd, Lamont, etc., etc. come to mind...)
myrna minx
(22,772 posts)hamsterjill
(15,225 posts)I think the vast majority of people involved in politics have humongous egos. Bill, who generally I like very much, has a massive one. I think he was merely reminding Obama that he (Clinton) is still relevant.
While I don't like the game playing and would have preferred that Big Dawg NOT do this, it does not surprise me that he did it.
KurtNYC
(14,549 posts)And to the RWers, this praise from Bill Clinton will only make them more wary of Señor Romney.
PragmaticLiberal
(904 posts)KurtNYC
(14,549 posts)against Romney at all.
Clinton once said "Every time they attack you it gives you a chance to get your message out" but this doesn't fit with that kind of thinking because the inverse is not true (eg. that if "they" seem to agree with you you can't get your own version out" .
Initech
(100,159 posts)Get it right!!
PragmaticLiberal
(904 posts)but given his track record of statements dating back to the 2008 primaries, I'm not so sure.
Life Long Dem
(8,582 posts)I've said this so many times about Hillary and her ties to India offshoring. They are both fake.
EFerrari
(163,986 posts)malthaussen
(17,242 posts)Somehow, an "R" got subbed in for an "A."
-- Mal
aint_no_life_nowhere
(21,925 posts)Bill Clinton is a household name. Cory Booker isn't. Romney's ENTIRE campaign hinges on his claim that he's a competent and ethical businessman who knows how to fix the economy. Calling Romney "sterling" in this regard is as bad as Clinton simply telling the American public "vote for the other guy". How could you interpret this statement by Clinton as anything else than an endorsement of Romney for President? Time will tell, but you can bet the other side will feature these words prominently in their campaign. I think the negative impact of what Clinton did will be vast. What I wonder now is why. Even if Clinton really believes this, why voice it? Why not just remain silent? Clinton is very calculating and isn't prone to Joe Biden's foot-in-mouth-itis.
DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)He has hopes of underming whoever is in Hillary's way to the Oval Office, so he can finalize the compromises he wanted to do before the cigar scandal made him turn left.
EFerrari
(163,986 posts)Thrill
(19,178 posts)Thats all I can say. I really can't stand Democrats sometimes. They really have no clue how to win the PR battle in Politics.
This is one fucking stupid thing to say. This fool has basically gave the media even more help defending Mittens. Damn Shame