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backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
Fri Jun 1, 2012, 11:15 AM Jun 2012

Chris Hedges: The Christian Right's Crusade Against Gays Is Far Scarier Than You Think

Thanks to daaron in the Religion forum for pointing out this article...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/121829980

Anyways, the article itself is here:

http://www.alternet.org/teaparty/155633/hedges%3A_the_christian_right%27s_crusade_against_gays_is_far_scarier_than_you_think/

Hedges: The Christian Right's Crusade Against Gays Is Far Scarier Than You Think
The money available to the Christian right is solidifying institutions -- from right-wing universities to media outlets -- that propagate a culture of hate.

May 29, 2012 | The sentencing of Dharun Ravi for the hateful abuse that may have driven his gay roommate at Rutgers, Tyler Clementi, to commit suicide, or Barack Obama’s public acceptance of gay marriage, prevents many of us from seeing that life for gays, lesbians, bisexuals and transgender people is getting worse—much worse.

No one understands this better than the gay activist and pastor Mel White. White, along with his husband and partner of 30 years, Gary Nixon, founded Soulforce, an organization committed to using nonviolent resistance to end religion-based oppression. White and hundreds of Soulforce volunteers protest outside megachurches that preach hatred and bigotry in the name of religion. White travels to communities where young gays, lesbians, bisexuals or transgender people have committed suicide. He holds memorial services for them in front of the church doors. He accuses the pastors of these churches of murder. His books “Stranger at the Gate: To Be Gay and Christian in America” and “Holy Terror: Lies the Christian Right Tell Us to Deny Gay Equality,” are two of the most important works that examine the innate cruelty and proto-fascism of the Christian right. White, more than perhaps any other preacher in the country, has pulled young men and women back from the brink of despair, from succumbing to the tragic fate of Tyler Clementi. And White is scared.

“What kind of environment creates a Dharun Ravi who would carry out that kind of bullying, as well as a kid like Tyler who would become a victim of that kind of bullying?” White asked when I reached him by phone at his home in Long Beach, Calif. “It is society. At its heart it is the church. The churches should be convicted, not just Ravi. He’s just an extension of the hatred that people feel about this threat, this gay threat. Pope Benedict XVI should be on trial. Richard Land from the Southern Baptists should be on trial. Religious leaders, Protestant and Catholic, should be on trial. They made this happen, but too few Americans make the connection.”

White applauds President Obama for taking a personal stand for marriage equality. But he also notes that the president’s statement was accompanied by a reiteration that states have the right to determine their own policies toward marriage.
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Chris Hedges: The Christian Right's Crusade Against Gays Is Far Scarier Than You Think (Original Post) backscatter712 Jun 2012 OP
"At its heart it is the church. The churches should be convicted, not just Ravi." Zorra Jun 2012 #1
Applaud Hedges for getting right to it, speaking frankly, and they are the same thing. freshwest Jun 2012 #3
Religion is indeed at the core. backscatter712 Jun 2012 #5
It's an abuse of their privileges under the First Amendment. It is political, not theological, when freshwest Jun 2012 #6
Amen to that!!! Initech Jun 2012 #4
This makes me sick and sad. a la izquierda Jun 2012 #2

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
1. "At its heart it is the church. The churches should be convicted, not just Ravi."
Fri Jun 1, 2012, 11:31 AM
Jun 2012

Pope Benedict XVI should be on trial. Richard Land from the Southern Baptists should be on trial. Religious leaders, Protestant and Catholic, should be on trial. They made this happen, but too few Americans make the connection.”

Chris Hedges gets right to the very heart of the matter once again.

Pointing out the inconvenient truth, the glaring fact that the emperor is buck naked, like always.

Misogyny and Homophobia
by John McNeill

There was and continues to be a profound connection between misogyny and homophobia in our culture. Misogyny is defined as a fear and hatred of women. It manifests itself psychologically in the repression of everything in the psyche that is tradition- ally connected with the feminine. Among other things, this includes all emotions, feelings of compassion, all spiritual feelings, all dependency, and all need of community. In the future I would prefer to refer to misogyny with the word “feminaphobia.”

Over sixty years ago, G. Rattrey Taylor in his classic book Sex in History (New York: Vanguard Press 1954, Chap. 4, pp.72ff.) attempted to expose some of the culturally conditioned attitudes on sexuality. He found a universal phenomenon in cultures based on a patriarchal principle. These cultures with few exceptions tend to combine a strongly subordinationist view of women with a repression and horror of male homosexual practices. The institution in today’s culture which continues to hold on to the clearest expression of that form of patriarchy, including its homophobia, is the Roman Catholic Church.

In contrast, those cultures based on a matriarchal principle are inclined to combine an enhancement of the status of women with a relative tolerance for male homosexual practices. Taylor concludes that the tradition of the Christian West has been fundamentally based on patriarchal culture. This may help to explain certain striking anomalies from an ethical viewpoint in that tradition.
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There is a marked tendency in all the sources of Christian tradition to condemn sodomy in terms of a man “playing the role of a woman” with another man or using another man “like woman.” This has led to the cultural tradition of respecting the man who plays the active role of penetration in male homo- sexual activity and despising the man who plays the passive role of receiver. This tradition is still strong, especially in Latino culture. As Bailey remarked, this has been looked upon in tradition not so much as a violation of human nature but rather as a degradation of the male as such.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
3. Applaud Hedges for getting right to it, speaking frankly, and they are the same thing.
Fri Jun 1, 2012, 11:45 AM
Jun 2012

Extends also to their treatment of the Earth and all living things, to conquer and destroy. I've always felt misogyny and homophobia have the same root and Chris has said what I think. It's such a waste of humanity and life in general, to be so narrow.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
5. Religion is indeed at the core.
Fri Jun 1, 2012, 01:09 PM
Jun 2012

I'm absolutely disgusted every time I see a religious leader bashing the GLBT community from the pulpit - he has no idea how harmful that is, how far those ideas spread.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
6. It's an abuse of their privileges under the First Amendment. It is political, not theological, when
Fri Jun 1, 2012, 01:44 PM
Jun 2012

One goes after someone that is not of their flock, it goes beyond their right to persuade, it is hate for the nonbeliever of whatever they're preaching.

Denying secular rights to their own flock violates the Constitution which gave them individually and as a group, the right to practice their religion freely in the first place.

In the past in Europe, they'd be slain in the streets for not being of the majority religion, yet they do not respect the government that protects them here.

Those pushing for the creation of a theocracy are ungrateful for their freedom under the Constitution to evangelize, as their First Amendment right, but it does not extend to anyone who doesn't believe.

They need to respect the personal and lawful boundaries of the land, and if they abuse them, be punished.

Initech

(100,152 posts)
4. Amen to that!!!
Fri Jun 1, 2012, 12:03 PM
Jun 2012

Who really should be on trial are the hate peddlers - the Rick Warrens & Pat Robertson's of the world. I'm not saying people like Ravi are innocent - no - but they get caught up in the hate, lies and bullshit spewed by these bigots.

a la izquierda

(11,803 posts)
2. This makes me sick and sad.
Fri Jun 1, 2012, 11:34 AM
Jun 2012

As many on here know, my mother is a lesbian and my uncle is gay. Homophobia makes my heart hurt.

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