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Similarly, although members of both parties express skepticism about how well government regulation of business works, 80% of Democrats say that a free market economy needs regulation to serve the public interest. Republicans are evenly divided on that question. Tea Party Republicans by a 2-1 majority reject the idea that regulation is needed.
About three-quarters of Democrats, for example, say that the government has a responsibility to take care of people who cant take care of themselves. Among Republicans 54% reject that idea, and only 40% agree. That question illustrates the strong conservative shift within the Republican party. In the final years of the Reagan administration, 62% of Republicans agreed on the need for a safety net.
When Pew first began its surveys, Americans views about the environment showed no significant partisan divide nearly 90% of Democrats, independents and Republicans agreed on a need for stricter laws and regulations to protect the environment. Today, after several decades of increasing environmental regulation, a huge, 46 point partisan gap exists on that question. Democrats views on the need for more regulation have remained steady, and independents have shifted a relatively small amount. Republican support further environmental regulation has plummeted: 47% now say yes.
Views on immigration and immigrants show a similar pattern. A decade ago, about half the adherents of both parties said that immigrants threaten traditional American customs and values. Today, 60% of Republicans express that views, but among Democrats, the number has dropped to 40%.
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-pew-partisan-divide-poll-20120604,0,3088351.story
There is lots more at the link. Just when you think that republican politicians are significantly crazier than their base, you see a poll like this which shows how far their base has shifted to the right into crazyland.
The survey results themselves are at http://www.people-press.org/2012/06/04/partisan-polarization-surges-in-bush-obama-years/ .
Zalatix
(8,994 posts)Perhaps because the gap is shrinking faster than Squaw Valley ski lift sales in July?
pampango
(24,692 posts)the charge against NAFTA and the WTO with Democrats and independents catching up with them.
They didn't cover that in this poll. The only things close to it were with "should we concentrate more on problems at home" and with immigration.
Between 2007 and 2009, the percentage of Republicans favoring more of domestic focus increased 12 points (from 67% to 79%). In the current survey it has risen to 86%, as high as it has ever been in a political values survey.
By contrast, the percentage of Democrats saying the U.S. should focus more on problems at home fell between 2007 and 2009, from 87% to 79% and has remained about the same since then (80%). The current survey marks the first time that a higher percentage of Republicans than Democrats says that the nation should focus less on problems abroad and more on problems at home.
Much of the change in views about immigration policy has occurred among Democrats and independents. About six-in-ten Democrats (58%) favor greater restrictions on immigration, compared with 84% of Republicans largely unchanged in recent years. And three years ago, 77% of independents agreed that greater restrictions on people coming to live in this country were needed. That is down to 69% today.
When these questions were first asked twenty years ago, there was virtually no difference between the views of Republicans (78% agree), Democrats (74%) and independents (75%).
I doubt that Pew is avoiding polling about globalisation because they are afraid that Democrats have finally joined republicans and independents in opposing trade agreements like NAFTA and the WTO. Pew polls on so many issues that they must have to decide what to include and what to exclude each time.
I will be as interested as you to see what their numbers show the next time they poll on this.
I think the increasing tendency of republicans to look inward and animosity towards immigrants shows that they are continuing to trend against all things international including trade, but we'll see when the next poll is released.
Zalatix
(8,994 posts)When was the last time you ever posted a thread supporting Free Trade and you didn't run into mobs of opposition? No wonder you never respond to me when I point that out.
The gap between Democrats and Republicans when it comes to offshoring, is shrinking. FAST.
Your
Polls
Are
Wrong.
TheWraith
(24,331 posts)DU is about as representative of Democrats as a Ron Paul gathering is of Republicans.
Zalatix
(8,994 posts)and I'll bet my ass none of those working-class people are fans of seeing their jobs go overseas.
Pampango's polls can go to hell. He takes that to the streets he's got nothing but brickbats coming his way.
pampango
(24,692 posts)"My polls" are Pew polls. They could be wrong but I notice you post no links to polls showing that more Democrats than republicans or teabaggers oppose globalism.
If you believe that the number of DU posts in support of your position is more valid an indication of what Democrats, republicans and teabaggers think than polls done by Pew then you are welcome to your opinion.
The good news for you is that your frequent challenge to those who disagree with you to respond to each of your "Do you know how many people here disagree with you?" posts will leave you feeling victorious, if somewhat frustrated, when I and others do not take the bait. Many who disagree with me make informed posts that make good points which I concede at times and counter at other times. I enjoy responding to those posts but not to the dare and double-dare posts.
Most DU'ers, including you I suspect, post their opinions here not to generate positive responses but because they believe in them and like to see them discussed. At times you seem to prefer to "keep score" (more people support me than support you) rather than discuss whatever the issue is. If that makes you happy, keep doing it.
Zalatix
(8,994 posts)on the DU.
This is not an exercise in frustration for me. This is an exercise in frustration for you.
Your pool of support for offshoring is shrinking. Occupy Wall Street is tilting heavily against it. There is going to be a huge bipartisan revolution against the destruction of America's working class through offshoring and you are on the wrong side of it.
Links? I need none. I just need to look around. It's getting uglier out there for free trade not the opposition.
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)they have no problem at all maintaining completely incompatible positions.
pampango
(24,692 posts)"all things international" so we may have to give them so credit for consistency.
byeya
(2,842 posts)When it began in 1967, no President with an average below 95 has ever been reelected.
W had an average of 96; Clinton 105.
Records are made to be broken, but Obama has a lot of selling to do.
spanone
(135,959 posts)TheWraith
(24,331 posts)It's always good to understand what the definition of conservative positions actually is. Despite popular myth around here, no Democrat even gets particularly close.