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eridani

(51,907 posts)
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 12:49 AM Jun 2012

On financial risk, medical bankruptcy works as well as a high-deductible plan

NBER:
http://papers.nber.org/papers/w18105?utm_campaign=ntw&utm_medium=email&utm_source=ntw

Full paper (highly technical):
http://www.stanford.edu/~nmahoney/Research/Mahoney_Bankruptcy.pdf


In the first part of the paper, I argue that the fact that most medical care is provided on credit coupled with the fact that this debt can be discharged for seizable assets in bankruptcy provides households with implicit high-deducible health insurance.

I next evaluated the quantitative importance of this mechanism. Exploiting cross-state and within-state variation in asset exemption law, I show that uninsured households with greater seizable assets make higher out-of-pocket medical payments, conditional on the amount of care received. In turn, I find that households with greater wealth-at-risk are more likely to hold health insurance coverage. Health insurance is wealth insurance, to a certain degree, and is less valuable to those with fewer assets.

The final part of the paper examined ways in which the implicit insurance from bankruptcy might inform the design of health insurance policy. Because households do not pay for bankruptcy insurance, too many households choose to be uninsured on the margin. Using a utility-based, microsimulation model of insurance choice, I estimate that the optimal Pigovian* penalties are similar on average to the penalties under the ACA.

* A Pigovian tax is a tax levied on a market activity that generates negative externalities. The tax is intended to correct the market outcome. In the presence of negative externalities, the social cost of a market activity is not covered by the private cost of the activity. In such a case, the market outcome is not efficient and may lead to over-consumption of the product. A Pigovian tax equal to the negative externality is thought to correct the market outcome back to efficiency. In the presence of positive externalities, i.e., public benefits from a market activity, those who receive the benefit do not pay for it and the market may under-supply the product. Similar logic suggests the creation of Pigovian subsidies to make the users pay for the extra benefit and spur more production. (Wikipedia, accessed 5/29/12)



Comment by Don McCanne of PNHP: At the risk of oversimplification, this paper demonstrates that personal bankruptcy can serve as a form of health insurance in individuals who are otherwise uninsured and have negligible wealth that is at risk and negligible assets that can be seized in a bankruptcy proceeding.

What a terrible thesis this is to study - suggesting that bankruptcy can suffice for health insurance in people with no wealth and no seizable assets. Maybe that is acceptable if impaired health care access due to lack of funds is not important, or if we accept that the costs of uninsured care should be shifted to insured individuals, or, above all, if we assume that the indignity of personal bankruptcy is small price to pay for this perverse form of "insurance."

Perhaps one of the most alarming sentences in this paper is the following: "Thus the impact of bankruptcy on financial risk is exactly what you would expect from a high-deductible health plan."

Wow! On financial risk, bankruptcy works as well as a high-deductible plan!

Instead of trying to figure out whether or not Pigovian penalties are similar to penalties under the Affordable Care Act, why don't we instead move forward with a health care financing system that doesn't ever involve bankruptcy, or Pigovian penalties for that matter - a single payer national health program. Not only would that be much simpler, we would all get the health care that we need.
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On financial risk, medical bankruptcy works as well as a high-deductible plan (Original Post) eridani Jun 2012 OP
Isn't there a limit to how many times (and how often) bankruptcy can be declared? pnwmom Jun 2012 #1
I think you have to wait a certain number of years eridani Jun 2012 #2
So the risk is that if you took bankruptcy for $20 K in debt, and then still didn't have insurance pnwmom Jun 2012 #4
I'm putting this paper in my "A capitalist will sell you the rope to coalition_unwilling Jun 2012 #3

pnwmom

(109,028 posts)
1. Isn't there a limit to how many times (and how often) bankruptcy can be declared?
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 02:24 AM
Jun 2012

What if one family member has cancer and a few years later, another one gets in a car accident?

eridani

(51,907 posts)
2. I think you have to wait a certain number of years
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 02:35 AM
Jun 2012

Of course you could still be caught out with two major sets of expenses.

pnwmom

(109,028 posts)
4. So the risk is that if you took bankruptcy for $20 K in debt, and then still didn't have insurance
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 03:11 AM
Jun 2012

you might not be able to take bankruptcy for $200 K in debt a couple years later.

Great.

I realize there are already people in this position, whether they want to be or not -- but it doesn't sound like a better plan than insurance to me, assuming insurance was available.

 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
3. I'm putting this paper in my "A capitalist will sell you the rope to
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 03:06 AM
Jun 2012

hang him with" file (with apologies to V.I. Lenin).

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