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WilliamPitt

(58,179 posts)
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 04:43 PM Jun 2012

Your Honest Opinion: What Happens Tonight?

My view: if these high turnout reports are to be believed, then it's 6-5 an pick 'em who wins...but I don't think we're going to find out tonight. There will be a recount, and that could take weeks...and at that point, anything is possible.

P.S. I also think Walker is in deep shit with these state and federal investigations, so the law may wind up recalling him if the people of Wisconsin do not.

You?

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Your Honest Opinion: What Happens Tonight? (Original Post) WilliamPitt Jun 2012 OP
Nervous as a cat on a hot tin roof. Think it'll be really close and sinkingfeeling Jun 2012 #1
Walker has the $ and his minions count the votes Rambis Jun 2012 #2
Well, the Secretary of State is a Democrat Arkana Jun 2012 #19
sec of state really does not do much--attorney general is republican as they get dembotoz Jun 2012 #20
Recount. LiberalAndProud Jun 2012 #3
Honestly? tallahasseedem Jun 2012 #4
Honest Opinion: Barrett Wins Blue Owl Jun 2012 #5
News of the turnout... DearAbby Jun 2012 #12
Milwaukee (city), Milwaukee County and Raven Jun 2012 #6
There are three ways to win this. toddwv Jun 2012 #7
You're right!!! Borchkins Jun 2012 #10
No matter how hideously corrupt that snake is, the Republicans will start shouting "political" EFerrari Jun 2012 #11
Thank you for summing it up so well WilliamPitt Jun 2012 #18
Don't know what happens. I'll be asleep MineralMan Jun 2012 #8
53 to 46 to 1 ...Barrett wins Ellipsis Jun 2012 #9
Walker declared winner in spite of contrary evidence. MrSlayer Jun 2012 #13
Final result: 53 to 47 for Barrett Woody Woodpecker Jun 2012 #14
With the turnout the vote is getting? Scootaloo Jun 2012 #15
I don't know... Mutiny In Heaven Jun 2012 #25
Just watch Scootaloo Jun 2012 #29
I think Walker wins in a squeaker. Arkana Jun 2012 #16
Voter turn out is at over 100% in Madison. xmas74 Jun 2012 #34
I think Barrett is likely to get more votes but expect the Republicans to launch gkhouston Jun 2012 #17
About half of the voters in Wisconsin will be disappointed, some of them sorely. slackmaster Jun 2012 #21
+1 cthulu2016 Jun 2012 #26
best hope walker in jail dembotoz Jun 2012 #22
Walker wins, but will eventually be forced to resign because of the investigation n/t Blaukraut Jun 2012 #23
My thought is that Walker will take it. Blue_In_AK Jun 2012 #24
Barrett wins, Walker gets frogmarched by Feds out of his election HQ party Bozita Jun 2012 #27
It will be very close. It comes down to turnout. boxman15 Jun 2012 #28
Turnout is "through the roof" is what I heard. Greybnk48 Jun 2012 #30
Lots of DU jury duty jberryhill Jun 2012 #31
Walker loses tonight deaniac21 Jun 2012 #32
Walker "wins" Raine Jun 2012 #33
Recount nt Zorra Jun 2012 #35

Rambis

(7,774 posts)
2. Walker has the $ and his minions count the votes
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 04:45 PM
Jun 2012

I do think he will be removed from office once the corruption investigation is concluded.

Arkana

(24,347 posts)
19. Well, the Secretary of State is a Democrat
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 05:08 PM
Jun 2012

if I recall correctly.

All is not lost on that front.

LiberalAndProud

(12,799 posts)
3. Recount.
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 04:46 PM
Jun 2012

That was my first thought on reading the title. Opened it to find that we agree.

And that John Doe investigation ... Walker will remain untouched and unnamed as a target until after November.

Blue Owl

(50,599 posts)
5. Honest Opinion: Barrett Wins
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 04:49 PM
Jun 2012

It's the dishonest election clerks (or crooks) like Kathy Nickolaus that have me worried. Some kind of vote-flipping bullshit is going with her, I just know it.

DearAbby

(12,461 posts)
12. News of the turnout...
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 04:53 PM
Jun 2012

would make the bullshit they try useless. I feel pretty good about the turnout. Barrett wins, Nickolaus efforts exposes the party.

Raven

(13,910 posts)
6. Milwaukee (city), Milwaukee County and
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 04:49 PM
Jun 2012

Dane County are the places to watch tonight according to WI_DEM who's got a pretty good pulse on this election. I agree that it will be close and if it is and Walker squeeks it out, it will not to a victory for Republicans nationally.

toddwv

(2,830 posts)
7. There are three ways to win this.
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 04:49 PM
Jun 2012

It only takes 1 Republican loss to turn the Senate over. It's currently split.

Walker could lose his Lt Governor.

Walker could be ousted.

The Republicans losing the Senate has a really good chance of occurring.

Sending Walker walking? Seems like a bit of an outside chance but possible.


I would love to see all that Koch Kash being wasted. Let's go Barret!!!

EFerrari

(163,986 posts)
11. No matter how hideously corrupt that snake is, the Republicans will start shouting "political"
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 04:53 PM
Jun 2012

when/if the DoJ moves in.

If we lose today, I hope to God it's really close or I doubt Obama/Holder will go for it and in this first year of Citizens United, it would be hard to blame them.

MineralMan

(146,354 posts)
8. Don't know what happens. I'll be asleep
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 04:51 PM
Jun 2012

before the results are clear. I'm hoping to find out in the morning when I get up.

High turnouts are good, but we'll have to see where they were and how high they were. We won't know until results are in. Truly we won't.

 

MrSlayer

(22,143 posts)
13. Walker declared winner in spite of contrary evidence.
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 04:53 PM
Jun 2012

In other words, we will win but they won't give it to us. Cheating will be rampant, media will be complicit, general public will be oblivious.

 

Woody Woodpecker

(562 posts)
14. Final result: 53 to 47 for Barrett
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 04:54 PM
Jun 2012

and tomorrow Barrett goes on the job, firing and indicting every Walker crony he can find...

(and he can - just go back to the personnel records and fire everyone who was hired from 2010 and beyond).

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
15. With the turnout the vote is getting?
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 04:58 PM
Jun 2012

Unless Walker is dearly loved in Wisconsin, I'm willing to say that Barrett wins above 56%. Maybe even into the 60% ranges.

119% turnout in Madison (due to same-day registration). I can't imagine these people are that fired up to support the status quo.

Mutiny In Heaven

(550 posts)
25. I don't know...
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 05:18 PM
Jun 2012

I think that as the partisan divide has become more stark, the old rule of turnout = Democratic win has become less reliable.

Without the massive influx - and it really is ludicrous - of money Walker has had funnelled into his campaign, I've no doubt we'd be looking at a 10 point Barrett blow out tonight. As it is, I think the polls will be more or less born out, and that he'll retain his position with 53-55% of the vote.

The thing I really can't get my head around is that WI went easily for Obama in 2008, most polls still show him with a decent enough lead...there's obviously a significant overlap there, there are Obama voters who're more than happy to give Walker the nod in this race. That's sad, and it just goes to show what money can buy you in politics...these are exactly the sort of voters the Romney SuperPacs will be aiming for with their $1b ad blitz.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
29. Just watch
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 05:26 PM
Jun 2012

Have something sweet to eat while you wait; all that bitterness can't be good for you. Watch, and you'll see. We've got this.

Arkana

(24,347 posts)
16. I think Walker wins in a squeaker.
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 05:00 PM
Jun 2012

Nowhere near the margin of his last election--in fact, I'd say by less than a percentage point--but the Republicans will claim it is a mandate to do whatever they want, like they always do.

Unless the turnout is absolutely inhuman and all the polling models were wrong...

xmas74

(29,685 posts)
34. Voter turn out is at over 100% in Madison.
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 07:00 PM
Jun 2012

(Wisconsin is a state that allows registration at the polls, hence the "over 100%" turn out).

It could be an incredible amount turning out to vote.

gkhouston

(21,642 posts)
17. I think Barrett is likely to get more votes but expect the Republicans to launch
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 05:00 PM
Jun 2012

an ugly -- a la Florida 2000 -- recount campaign. I expect they'll be floating accusations of voter fraud before the polls close.

 

slackmaster

(60,567 posts)
21. About half of the voters in Wisconsin will be disappointed, some of them sorely.
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 05:13 PM
Jun 2012

Accusations of a stolen election will fly. There will be demands for recounts and investigations.

dembotoz

(16,866 posts)
22. best hope walker in jail
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 05:16 PM
Jun 2012

i live in a reder than red area
i drive down streets where walker signs are on every house for blocks at a time

my fantasy outcome is walker in cuffs

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
24. My thought is that Walker will take it.
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 05:18 PM
Jun 2012

Republicans cheat, and this is a very important election to them. An indictment may solve the problem, though.

boxman15

(1,033 posts)
28. It will be very close. It comes down to turnout.
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 05:22 PM
Jun 2012

If turnout is low, Walker wins. If turnout is high, Barrett wins. It will be very, very close, though. We won't know who won until the early morning hours if we're lucky.

Greybnk48

(10,182 posts)
30. Turnout is "through the roof" is what I heard.
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 05:33 PM
Jun 2012

I think Walker is toast and at least 2 Senate seats.

Edited to add: AND the fucker's going to prison. eom.

Raine

(30,548 posts)
33. Walker "wins"
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 06:41 PM
Jun 2012

with all the money he's got it would be a miracle if he didn't manage to buy this thing.

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