Welcome to DU!
The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards.
Join the community:
Create a free account
Support DU (and get rid of ads!):
Become a Star Member
Latest Breaking News
General Discussion
The DU Lounge
All Forums
Issue Forums
Culture Forums
Alliance Forums
Region Forums
Support Forums
Help & Search
General Discussion
Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsNun says that masturbation won't hurt you; Prada slippers go apesh*t
Nun Targeted by Vatican for Saying Masturbation Prolly Won't Hurt You
Just when you thought the Vatican assault on U.S. nuns could get no more ridiculous comes news of the Holy See's censure of a 2006 book written by Margaret Farley, Yale Divinity School professor emeritus and member of the Sisters of Mercy, for daring to note her own personal opinions on marriage, homosexuality and the morality of certain sexual acts. The overarching problem had by the men of the hierarchy is that Sister Farley's personal opinions -- which she presents quite clearly as her personal views -- diverge from theirs, so the Congregation of the Doctrine of the Faith (the Vatican office once known as the Roman Inquisition), issued a "notification" regarding the book, Just Love: A Framework for Christian Sexual Ethics, which takes the author to task for specific examples of doctrinal heresy. To wit (with emphasis added):
Masturbation
Sr. Farley writes: "Masturbation usually does not raise any moral questions at all. It is surely the case that many women have found great good in self-pleasuring perhaps especially in the discovery of their own possibilities for pleasure something many had not experienced or even known about in their ordinary sexual relations with husbands or lovers. In this way, it could be said that masturbation actually serves relationships rather than hindering them. My final observation is, then, that the norms of justice as I have presented them would seem to apply to the choice of sexual self-pleasuring only insofar as this activity may help or harm, only insofar as it supports or limits, well-being and liberty of spirit. This remains largely an empirical question, not a moral one" (p. 236).
This statement does not conform to Catholic teaching: "Both the Magisterium of the Church, in the course of a constant tradition, and the moral sense of the faithful have been in no doubt and have firmly maintained that masturbation is an intrinsically and gravely disordered action "
Sr. Farley writes: "Masturbation usually does not raise any moral questions at all. It is surely the case that many women have found great good in self-pleasuring perhaps especially in the discovery of their own possibilities for pleasure something many had not experienced or even known about in their ordinary sexual relations with husbands or lovers. In this way, it could be said that masturbation actually serves relationships rather than hindering them. My final observation is, then, that the norms of justice as I have presented them would seem to apply to the choice of sexual self-pleasuring only insofar as this activity may help or harm, only insofar as it supports or limits, well-being and liberty of spirit. This remains largely an empirical question, not a moral one" (p. 236).
This statement does not conform to Catholic teaching: "Both the Magisterium of the Church, in the course of a constant tradition, and the moral sense of the faithful have been in no doubt and have firmly maintained that masturbation is an intrinsically and gravely disordered action "
The notification continues, both on the topic of masturbation and a host of other sex-related and marriage-related subjects, but you get the basic idea. But here, I believe one finds the crux of the Vatican's problem with Farley's work, which regards her treatment of what the Vatican refers to as "the Magisterium," which is the teaching of the church as divined by its all-male hierarchy :
In addressing various moral issues, Sr. Farley either ignores the constant teaching of the Magisterium or, where it is occasionally mentioned, treats it as one opinion among others.
The document states that Pope Benedict XVI personally approved the notification. ...............(more)
The complete piece is at: http://www.alternet.org/newsandviews/article/938486/nun_targeted_by_vatican_for_saying_masturbation_prolly_won%27t_hurt_you/
InfoView thread info, including edit history
TrashPut this thread in your Trash Can (My DU » Trash Can)
BookmarkAdd this thread to your Bookmarks (My DU » Bookmarks)
4 replies, 2148 views
ShareGet links to this post and/or share on social media
AlertAlert this post for a rule violation
PowersThere are no powers you can use on this post
EditCannot edit other people's posts
ReplyReply to this post
EditCannot edit other people's posts
Rec (5)
ReplyReply to this post
4 replies
= new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight:
NoneDon't highlight anything
5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Nun says that masturbation won't hurt you; Prada slippers go apesh*t (Original Post)
marmar
Jun 2012
OP
deaniac21
(6,747 posts)1. Hmmmmm....
she must not have watched The Exorcist!
LuvNewcastle
(16,869 posts)2. I imagine that nuns know a lot about masturbation.
God only knows what Benedict has sex with,
mysuzuki2
(3,521 posts)3. Below is a detailed explanation of what Jesus said about masturbation.
HopeHoops
(47,675 posts)4. It does if you use 40 grit sandpaper.
I'm just speculating, mind you.