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apnu

(8,761 posts)
Thu May 5, 2016, 02:47 PM May 2016

Why are we thinking Trump MIGHT pick Kasich?

I've been hearing this around the Internet today and at first I was nodding along and then I realized something: Trump's campaign is a hot mess.

He's got little to no ground game, no media relations to speak of, revolving campaign managers, inconsistent messaging and his own people struggle to explain what Trump's talking about. He babbles for hours talking about himself, has no describable policy or plans beyond building a physically and politically impossible wall. He's pissed off every American metric except for racist white men. He's clearly making all this up as he goes along, there is no filter between his brain and his mouth and he says whatever skips across his mind.

Why would we suddenly think he'd make a tactical decision like Kasich to help lock up a battleground state that the GOP must win in order to win the Presidency?

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apnu

(8,761 posts)
7. I have no idea.
Thu May 5, 2016, 03:08 PM
May 2016

If I were a serious politician and Trump was looking for a veep, I'd be trying to make myself as small and hard to find as possible right now.

But, on the other hand, the Republicans ran smart and serious people out of the party years ago. I have my doubts about Kasich's sanity.

MFM008

(19,839 posts)
3. because the polls
Thu May 5, 2016, 02:54 PM
May 2016

say Kasich would "beat" Clinton. But he is a guy who has had NO scrutiny this entire election cycle.

apnu

(8,761 posts)
5. But that presumes Trump listens to the polls.
Thu May 5, 2016, 03:05 PM
May 2016

He hasn't done anything rational like that now, why would he start being rational all of the sudden?

redwitch

(14,954 posts)
4. You forgot some people.
Thu May 5, 2016, 02:57 PM
May 2016

Lots of racist white women out there and they love that he is not politically correct aka rude.

apnu

(8,761 posts)
11. What percentage do you think that is?
Thu May 5, 2016, 03:12 PM
May 2016

I'm thinking that's a pretty small number. Looking around at Trump's rallies, they seem to be 90% white men.

redwitch

(14,954 posts)
12. No idea of the percentage but I know they are out there.
Thu May 5, 2016, 03:15 PM
May 2016

And we were just reminded of that woman with the Lyin' African poster smiling so sweetly. I would bet that a lot of those men at the rallies have wives or girlfriends who share their racist sentiments.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
6. Were I Trump (and thank goodness I'm not), I'd do my damnedest to draft Ben Carson.
Thu May 5, 2016, 03:08 PM
May 2016

Were I Trump (and thank goodness I'm not), I'd do my damnedest to draft Ben Carson, hoping against hope to bring a few non-white and/or fundamentalist voters into my voting bloc. The optics would look better as well.

But, I'm not Trump and as he's done nothing I've expected him to throughout his campaign, all bets are off for his running mate as far as I'm concerned.

apnu

(8,761 posts)
9. Word is, Carson is leading Trump's Veep selection committee
Thu May 5, 2016, 03:09 PM
May 2016

It would be odd to pick Carson.

But then, everything about Trump and Carson is odd, so I guess that notion is as probable as anything else.

apnu

(8,761 posts)
10. Its gonna be an interesting thing to watch.
Thu May 5, 2016, 03:10 PM
May 2016

Trump fascinates everyone, even us on the left.

I don't think anybody on this side of things will go for him, still we can't help but watch.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
13. Well, for devil's advocate, I have trouble imagining
Thu May 5, 2016, 03:19 PM
May 2016

Trump choosing any strong candidate who might in any way upstage him, or worse, challenge his authority or strike people as a better (smarter) official. Kasich definitely seems like a weenie who could be rolled over that way, even his W-type foot-in-mouth problem a peculiar asset, so he'd work. He'd bring his religion to the campaign, too. I don't know what Trump's tolerance for "god-willings" and "let's-prays" is, but as long as Kasich didn't insist god's will was something different from his perhaps it'd work.

Speaking of people who'd have trouble knuckling under to him, some on NPR were talking about Newt (!) and wondering how long he'd be able to take it. Such a shame. The guy who wants to make poor students scrub toilets for free lunches and could possibly challenge Cruz for most hated. Lol! A true dream ticket.

Speaking of knucklers, Chris Christie's gritting his teeth and putting up with Trump's cavalier treatment like a man who's made a decision. I know nothing about the geographics, but he's my best guess at present--if he'd accept a sure-losing ticket, but if not what's he doing standing up there all glassy-eyed and silent?

WI_DEM

(33,497 posts)
14. Kasich isn't likely to agree to run with somebody like Trump
Thu May 5, 2016, 04:16 PM
May 2016

if he does then he is a bigger idiot than I think he is.

underpants

(183,060 posts)
15. Why? How about WHERE? Ohio Ohio Ohio
Fri May 6, 2016, 08:58 AM
May 2016

He is still the Governor of a very important swing state. That's why they chose Cleveland for their convention- bring the big show to the locals and, the thinking goes, woo them. Kasich brings a block of votes in Ohio with him and his political operation/party insiders.

He also would be a nod to the Republican establishment nationwide. Like how Biden was a nod to DC foreign policy and military people that Obama was okay.

ChoppinBroccoli

(3,787 posts)
16. It's A Solid THEORY, But.........
Fri May 6, 2016, 11:48 AM
May 2016

............the fact of the matter is that Kasich isn't particularly well-liked in Ohio. He beat out Ted Strickland the thinnest of razor-thing margins (thanks in large part to the huge block of Democratic voters who held their breath and stamped their feet and refused to vote in 2010), and then knocked over a Democratic "challenger" who basically refused to run against him in 2014 (he was an unknown who, as far as I can tell, never ran a single ad or had any campaign materials, and then gave all his campaign money to the down-the-ticket Democrats).

I can tell you with 100% certainty that Kasich lost a huge block of reliable Republican voters when he tried to pass his Union-busting bill and got smacked down. There are a lot of people I know who are in the law enforcement and firefighting communities (usually solidly Republican) who actively campaigned against him in the primary. That's what happens when you try to kill the law enforcement Union AND make public statements calling a cop who RIGHTFULLY pulled you over for violating State law an "idiot."

Kasich also RUINED Ohio's public schools by giving away all the education money in the State to charter schools (Ohio's schools rank something like #47 in the nation) AND he alienated teachers, again, with his Union-busting bill.

I can see why Trump would want to add an Ohio Republican to his ticket. He will, after all, NEED Ohio and Florida to win the Presidency. He can't win without winning them BOTH (wonder if he's regretting being so insulting toward Rubio now). But there just isn't an Ohio Republican who would help him win Ohio in any way. He could try to take on Rob Portman, but that would be another mistake. Portman's about to get his ass kicked by the aforementioned Ted Strickland AND Portman still has the stench of being Bush's Budget Director all over him (not to mention that he's "soft on the gays" after finding out one of his children is gay--again we see, Republicans can't understand how bad their policies are until it affects them personally).

I think Drumpf is going to have a hard time finding anyone to be his running mate. Any politician with any hope of doing anything in the future isn't going to want to tie himself to that sinking ship, so it's most likely going to either be someone old and at the end of his political career, or who is a virtual unknown and wants to make a name for himself.

Since Drumpf is doing abysmally with women and pretty much all minorities, it would be pure comedy if he chose a minority woman. It would be like John McCain thinking he could get all of Hillary's disgruntled voters in 2008 just by giving them someone of the same gender.

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