find a doc to prescribe it. Some look to the street. We've got a problem with a lot of folks to blame (or empatize with).

My doctors know I need opiates and they know I don't take them when I don't need them. I'm not the only one.

if they were not available.

and this is a well known problem, You blaming the users is not surprising though.

have these meds for those who need them. There are people who demand opioids when less addictive treatments would work. There are also addicts who refuse treatment

treatment options being drugs like Cymbalta.

and the Government has recommended tighter restrictions on prescription. Of course we cannot talk about the docs in Florida, shhh that is verbotten. that would prescribe this shit like candy, or the docs at ERs who do as well. They have appropriate uses, and when used CORRECTLY they have a much lower risk of addiction.

Example, when I was in a car wreck I needed this for a total of 36 hours ,I was given a ten day prescription. As a former medic I knew that though. So when I could tolerate the pain with mere tylenol...

not the drug companies that push this like candy. For example, all those medication adds, should be off the air. Oh and the American Medical Association agrees with me as well. Some of the medications on your tv adds are opiates.

and yes, the companies should be held responsible for the rash of opiate addictions... and yes deaths.

I know, I know you would never blame corporations. They are always blameless in your mind...this is predictable with you

Oh and here is the one of many stories on the AMA stance

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/854651

Though I thought the issue was that a very small number of physicians are writing a huge portion of the prescriptions?

the other is that it is over prescribed at ERs. See above. I should have gotten 4 pills, not a ten day supply.

bigpharma AND bigprison make out.

something for everybody!

except the dead, pain wracked, and imprisoned, of course

I had the same results with Oxymorphone (generic Opana), and told my doctor every month that I was lucky to get 7 to 8 hours of relief.... AFTER the 1 1/2 to 2 hours that it took for the outer shell to break down and they started kicking in. I was on the 40mg tablets, the highest legally made in the US. I got 2 per day, with 2 15mg Roxicodones for "break through pain".

Therein laid the problem.... when you wake up stiff and hurting, you have to take one of your "break throughs" just to get out of bed, leaving you just one more for the day.

My Neurosurgeon will only write opioids after a major surgery, and only 3 to 4 months worth, tops..... while weaning you down the whole time. This was back in 2004, and he still holds that policy today! He calls the drug company Reps "the drug pushers", but will refer you to pain management if he feels you need it after he has done all he can for you, and release4s you.

The drug companies offer free samples to give out, price breaks for people with no insurance... and kickbacks to the greedy doctors who prescribe a certain quota each month.

I would not be able to function without the help of opioids, and they give ME a better QUALITY OF LIFE, which is important to fight off depression in people who suffer from chronic pain. It's actually the addicts, and the frauds who sell their meds, that make it harder on legitimate patients like me, and many others on here...

Peace,

Ghost

rather than as a method to raise money for the state and private corporations -- not to mention making everyone from newscasters with coke habits to DAs with drinking habits (and guts the size of satellite dishes) to the ancient couple down the street with a cheeseburger-and-pizza addiction feel oh-so-morally superior -- we can set up better programs for pain management.

As long as pharmcos are allowed to spew out their drugs, and little people can't get legal access if they do become addicted, you'll have a black market that fucks up the whole system. Violence happens because people don't want to go to jail. Lives and careers are ruined. That same Florida law mandates 25 years for like 60 to 100 pills. Twenty-five years. What desperation will people resort to in order to avoid a sentence like that?

We don't arrest people for cheeseburger addiction even though the addict is killing himself, increasing insurance rates and adding to dangerous driving conditions (as a driver he's more likely to have a heart attack at the wheel.) So why do we lock up any other addict? It's just a game, I know, and I am such a foolish idealist to think that authoritarian, God-complex-suffering, greedy people will allow it to change.

But you could have what you need to keep you comfortable and functioning, the black market could be nearly eliminated, and addicts could receive treatment and recover their lives. It could happen if Good Wealthy Christians really wanted it to happen.

They don't want that to happen.

I am very sorry to hear about your pain issues.

Those laws sound mucho familiar.

I am not a pill taker, unless you count ibuprofin and vitamins, but I know of addicts who need real help without stigma, chronic pain sufferers who need more appropriate levels of relief, and good people who have overdosed because of misuse and deadly interaction of their prescribed drugs. We are not managing addiction here AT ALL, no matter how draconian our inbred lawmakers make their dirty drug laws.

I, too, am stuck here, but had someone ask to buy the place today, which is a good sign. I may be getting out soon, and moving to a place where people are less paralyzed by their abject greed or their fear of the greedy.

Huh, wonder whether we could have a "war on drugs" directed at pharma

mind."