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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTrans folks are not deadly weapons. The comparrison is dehumanizing.
What motivates folks to make such comparisons?
And now we even have a poll about it?
WTF???
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1172192619
Waldorf
(654 posts)stone space
(6,498 posts)JI7
(89,290 posts)It's hard reading through the entire thing
stone space
(6,498 posts)The same folks have been comparing Black folks and gay folks to deadly weapons for some time, now.
JI7
(89,290 posts)stone space
(6,498 posts)I was shocked the first time they compared being Black with being a deadly weapon.
Then they switched to comparing gays with deadly weapons.
And now it's Transexuals.
Who will it be, next?
I bet it'll be a long, long time before they start comparing unarmed straight white males to deadly weapons.
friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)Straw Man
(6,628 posts)... that poll in any way supports or legitimizes transphobia?
linuxman
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madinmaryland
(64,934 posts)friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)The moral panic about the open carry fools (and yes, in my opinion they ARE fools and I never
would do or advocate openly carrying like that) is no more based in reality than the transphobic one.
Just to make clear: Neither group is more dangerous than the population as a whole is,
and all the shouting and handwaving about them is mere political posturing for
the 'benefit' of certain very different political constituencies.
I will continue to reiterate that unless and until someone can show statistics that open carriers
are somehow more dangerous than average
Also, the OP appears to have something of a truthiness problem about the subject:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1172145212#post2
What if folks had found themselves locked in the freezer, and had not been able to get out?
Do the gun fetishists care about anybody other than themselves?
www.democraticunderground.com/1172145212#post28
have been standard on walk in freezer doors for decades.
http://nocera.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/05/09/the-gun-report-may-9-2014/?_r=1
stone space
(6,498 posts)Post the jury results if you dare.
Lurks Often
(5,455 posts)Maybe you don't want to be discussing hidden posts, you currently have 6 hides and are only allowed to post due to Skinner's amnesty, otherwise you would be banned from posting on DU until near the end of June.
Here is your transparency page: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=313825&sub=trans
stone space
(6,498 posts)Lurks Often
(5,455 posts)I think it is important for everyone on DU to know that anything you post should be taken with a grain of salt
stone space
(6,498 posts)Just sayin'...
Lurks Often
(5,455 posts)Supporting due process, the right to a fair trial and the concept of reasonable doubt is not being a Zimmerman supporter.
stone space
(6,498 posts)Lurks Often
(5,455 posts)It's not a hard question, why can't you answer it?
stone space
(6,498 posts)It's not a hard question, why can't you answer it?
The only gungeon bullshit that belongs here in this thread is an explanation as to why unarmed Transexuals are being compared with deadly weapons.
The rest of it is off-topic.
Lurks Often
(5,455 posts)How many other people given a fair trial and found not guilty do you want incarcerated?
It's not a hard question, why can't you answer it?
stone space
(6,498 posts)How many other people given a fair trial and found not guilty do you want incarcerated?
It's not a hard question, why can't you answer it?
Lurks Often
(5,455 posts)How many other people given a fair trial and found not guilty do you want incarcerated?
stone space
(6,498 posts)Lurks Often
(5,455 posts)How many other people given a fair trial and found not guilty do you want incarcerated?
stone space
(6,498 posts)How many other people given a fair trial and found not guilty do you want incarcerated?
This isn't the gungeon.
Lurks Often
(5,455 posts)How many other people given a fair trial and found not guilty do you want incarcerated?
And if you hate the "Gungeon" so much why are 32% of ALL your posts in that one group you hate so much?
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(5,455 posts)LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)I think you should continue wasting people's time. It allows you purpose and meaning that seems would otherwise be lacking. Good luck.
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(5,455 posts)beevul
(12,194 posts)You have no authority or credibility here.
Matrosov
(1,098 posts)They're carrying a deadly weapon with them. That inherently makes them more dangerous. Their intent doesn't even matter, because open carrying creates a chance for them to have a negligent discharge or for someone to grab their weapon, a chance that didn't exist before.
What makes transgendered people inherently more dangerous?
beevul
(12,194 posts)What was being compared was a couple of moral panics, not people and guns.
Brush up on your reading comprehension.
stone space
(6,498 posts)The poll was rightly hidden.
Lurks Often
(5,455 posts)Maybe you don't want to be discussing hidden posts, you currently have 6 hides and are only allowed to post due to Skinner's amnesty, otherwise you would be banned from posting on DU until near the end of June.
Here is your transparency page: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=313825&sub=trans
How many times have you been banned from posting because you accumulated 5 or more hides?
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beevul
(12,194 posts)Nobody said they were, and they were not being compared with anything.
As you and I and everyone else that takes the time to read knows.
The poll was a terrible hide.
La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)thanks for bringing this to light
friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)what they see isn't actually there...
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)Not that it has changed politicians or political bulletin boards.
But the AP did change its rules on the misuse and abuse of adjectives suggesting or/associating with mental illness with violence and crime.
friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)It was not.
beevul
(12,194 posts)Your statement:
What motivates folks to make such comparisons?
Your statement contains an implicit claim, that someone actually IS comparing Trans folks to deadly weapons.
In support of this claim, you link to this thread http://www.democraticunderground.com/1172192619 which reads:
Thread title: "Poll in regard to the moral panic over open carry of firearms"
First line in the post:"In your opinion, how does it compare to the current right-wing transphobic moral panic?"
Nowhere are trans folks being compared to weapons.
So, in an effort to game a jury (which IMO crosses the line into gaming the jury system, and Skinner has been very clear how he feels about gaming the system), you implicitly accuse another poster of doing something which they clearly, unambiguously and obviously did not do.
But that wasn't enough for you was it. You got away with it once, and you just couldn't resist doubling down on it and posting it to GD. I appreciate that. It gives me an opportunity to dissect and expose the dishonest nastiness of your claim for what it is, out in the open for all to see.
friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)beevul
(12,194 posts)You're welcome.
Thats ok. Others can make note of his behavior in his absence, and draw their own conclusions.
Frankly I'm surprised he didn't selectively self delete before the truth was made known.
friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)The moral panic-mongers like Pat McCrory and Michael Bloomberg gin up an issue
for political gain, and the credulous swallow it hook, line, and sinker.
Nothing new under the sun: