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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhenever a host on MSNBC lets a talking head get away with 'Democrat Party'...
...they should be fined a million dollars.
Mika just let one of these jerks say it with no notice or comment.
Cosmic Kitten
(3,498 posts)Kip Humphrey
(4,753 posts)maddiemom
(5,106 posts)Repubs started using this as a dis, and emphasizing "rat" at the end. Dems should have never given it credence. PLUS, it's bad grammar---using a noun as an adjective (modifier).
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)conservatives 200 years ago called the new Republican Party (the liberals of those days) democrats as a slur. So they started calling themselves the Democratic-Republican party and wore it proudly, then later we continued on as the Democratic Party and wear it more proudly still.
And here we are again. It's really pretty funny!
Btw, I honestly only recently learned "democrat" was supposed to be a slur. I always figured it was proud anti-education nonsense like "nucular."
skip fox
(19,360 posts)maddiemom
(5,106 posts)Kip Humphrey
(4,753 posts)important are the principles, policies and approach to governance that these word represent.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)liberal, I am of course all too familiar with the villification of that term, also watching its tremendous success. To this day, polls that rely on self-identification by liberals (most) are by definition inaccurate and conservatives seem to feel hat handing the nuclear codes to a nutcase no one knows is actually conservative is safer than to an avowed liberal.
Straw Man
(6,628 posts)... like "baseball bat"? Or "egg timer"?
maddiemom
(5,106 posts)those examples are part of the entire proper name, not just--oh, never mind. English is a bitch.
maddiemom
(5,106 posts)onehandle
(51,122 posts)The Nominee:
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JRLeft
(7,010 posts)Go team go!
frylock
(34,825 posts)840high
(17,196 posts)JRLeft
(7,010 posts)Go team go!
Cosmic Kitten
(3,498 posts)There's a history of paid trolls
with Hillary.
She did it in the State Dept.
And it looks like she paid trolls
in the primary for tweets and likes.
And now the ratfucker David Brock
has admitted he's paying trolls
to ratfuck democrats Sanders
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)policy discussion?
Trump is a fascist and is a buffoon, but Hillary dangerous neocon her foreign policy decisions are reckless. Her decision making is Dubya bad.
Darb
(2,807 posts)I question your motives.
The irony with that one burns.
Darb
(2,807 posts)They say it that way because they are calling us rats, in case you didn't know. Get a clue. First in to whine about the post huh? Maybe you...........................
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frylock
(34,825 posts)LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)And confusing 'whining' and 'concern' makes people look like biased half-wits.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)Go figure.
Odin2005
(53,521 posts)trumad
(41,692 posts)And they should be called out every fucking time. Your concern trolling is troubling.
Little Star
(17,055 posts)I think that's exactly why they do it, to belittle us as much as possible.
Cosmic Kitten
(3,498 posts)Can't take the heat get out of the Primary
HOPNOSH
(37 posts)Why the angry hyperbole?
Skittles
(153,310 posts)unhinged
TipTok
(2,474 posts)liberalnarb
(4,532 posts)It was supposed to be the "Democrat Socialist Party" back in 2008 (in my dreams). But they couldn't even get their own politicians to say it.
bahrbearian
(13,466 posts)Lucky Luciano
(11,267 posts)If it were not for DU, I never would have had any idea dropping the "ic" could cause such whining.
peabody
(445 posts)They already turned liberal into a label with bad connotation and now they're trying to do it with the word Democrat. Keep giving them slack and attacking those of us defending the name and you've become an ally in their assault. Language, in case you don't know it, is very powerful and the right-wing has been scoring victories after victories: pro-life, death-tax, socialize medicine, and so on. It lets them frame the arguments and those people they despise. Why roll over on another one?
Lucky Luciano
(11,267 posts)peabody
(445 posts)and thus try to to stigmatized the party and it's members as rats. It's a strategy from Frank Luntz, their linguistic expert. They've already use the word liberal as a smear; you want them to include Democrat it there too? That's why we complain. Language can be a powerful weapon to smear and demonize; we can't let them keep using it against us.
scscholar
(2,902 posts)They hate us so much.
840high
(17,196 posts)of my daily concerns. Trivial.
maddiemom
(5,106 posts)I call it out whenever I can (including on DU).
malaise
(269,328 posts)I'm living for the day someone calls them ReTHUGs on air
d_legendary1
(2,586 posts)There are lot more important things to worry about than some paid shill calling us names.
RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)nxylas
(6,440 posts)Like "I could care less" or spelling "voila" as "walla".
Justice
(7,188 posts)I heard her say it last week.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)That's the real reason for all of this. Someone would like for her to be fired, I take it. And probably the "jerk" was not pro-HRC...didn't see it, just reading it in context here.
Egnever
(21,506 posts)the idea that woman holds any kind of principled position is laughable.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)and one rarely ever sees the left side of her face...always pointed toward Him...and when she was saying "fire her" she was talking over to males in conversation...OK, at least she's trying. And I do agree with her, so there's that.
Justice
(7,188 posts)libdem4life
(13,877 posts)repeating it at least three times trying to get a word in edgewise with Joe and a guest.
Sorry to disappoint you.
Dreamer Tatum
(10,926 posts)Love to know what legal principle would apply. Other than your butthurt, that is.
HOPNOSH
(37 posts)Butthurt is so over.
brucefan
(1,549 posts)That drives me crazy!(which is probably why they do it.)
WhiteTara
(29,736 posts)but I question that. I think she is too far up Dead Intern Joe's ass to be anything but a stooge.
frylock
(34,825 posts)Egnever
(21,506 posts)Never have.
There are certainly a lot of people offended by it but I have just never been bothered by it.
ProudProgressiveNow
(6,130 posts)http://mediamatters.org/research/2006/08/16/gop-strategists-christen-democrat-sic-party-and/136406
Edit: They even has seminars on this.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)TeamPooka
(24,303 posts)I'm abbreviating it two letters like you do to Democratic.
Then they shut the fuck up
librechik
(30,678 posts)karynnj
(59,511 posts)First of all, it is a pretty minor offense. I don't think we need to make "Democrat" almost a bad word when used as an adjective. Not to mention, I have occasionally heard even some very good Democrats slip when speaking about some issue or other.
Second, for the most part, it signals that you should consider the talking head as potentially leaning right.
Third, making this a big issue makes us look silly -- as it really does not deserve the level of anger that you seem to have.
Gormy Cuss
(30,884 posts)here's a nice write up of why the right adopted this usage.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrat_Party_%28epithet%29
And my two cents: every time a talking head uses it inappropriately we should refer to the GOP as the Publican party.