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17 Crazy Things Women Couldn't Do in 1960 (Original Post) ailsagirl May 2016 OP
We've come a long way, baby! ;-) n/t ReRe May 2016 #1
I was blown away by this slideshow ailsagirl May 2016 #2
That's an old expression; but the slide show got one equality "right" backward. It could elect Trump Jeffersons Ghost May 2016 #13
You're right... ReRe May 2016 #18
plus one Liberal_in_LA May 2016 #29
"Legally use contraceptives with your husband in every state" postatomic May 2016 #3
It was in 1951. sheshe2 May 2016 #5
I know ailsagirl May 2016 #10
In 1950, Harvard Law admitted 14 women. Downwinder May 2016 #4
Then the premise of the quiz is wrong ailsagirl May 2016 #8
Notice they qualified marybourg May 2016 #22
A least there was a grain of truth there ailsagirl May 2016 #24
That's where the right wing would take us back to. Kath1 May 2016 #6
You're right DesertRat May 2016 #20
Kicking sheshe2 May 2016 #7
Re: serving on a jury LiberalElite May 2016 #9
wow-- that's amazing ailsagirl May 2016 #11
A woman couldn't get a mortgage on her own until the 1970s NewJeffCT May 2016 #12
That obviously changed when women started entering the workforce ailsagirl May 2016 #16
Women were already in the workforce and many earned enough to qualify on their own Gormy Cuss May 2016 #32
That's true ailsagirl May 2016 #35
The thing is, there were many women in the workforce in spite of the legal barriers Gormy Cuss May 2016 #36
I grew up with this bullshit. Being poor and stupid wasn't bad enough, I guess. nt valerief May 2016 #14
There are 4 states where co-habitation is still illegal??? Odin2005 May 2016 #15
$500 fine or 60 days in jail in Florida IronLionZion May 2016 #19
Florida just recently repealed that law davidn3600 May 2016 #23
Good, there are a few other states that still have it IronLionZion May 2016 #25
It may be on the books but the laws are unenforceable. NutmegYankee May 2016 #26
I remember this well. In fact... KauaiK May 2016 #17
Very misleading title. TygrBright May 2016 #21
or better yet... Bucky May 2016 #28
20 crazy advertisements and pop ups on one page in 2016! jberryhill May 2016 #27
I also remember pmorlan1 May 2016 #30
To this day I have refused all offers of an American Express card katmondoo May 2016 #31
My mother paid off the Sears charge after my parents divorced. Gormy Cuss May 2016 #33
WHAT THE FUCK??? Odin2005 May 2016 #34

Jeffersons Ghost

(15,235 posts)
13. That's an old expression; but the slide show got one equality "right" backward. It could elect Trump
Sat May 28, 2016, 10:32 PM
May 2016

"Women couldn't attend any US military academy until 1976, when the women were admitted. In 2015, 16% of the graduating West Point class is made up of women. Female recruits couldn't serve in active combat roles until 2013.

The Federal government should have made it illegal for men and women to serve in actual combat! We could still pay for military bases, where women and men could safely serve. (New Mexico - as a whole - is supported by fancy federal installations. Who wants that cash-cow to die?) I don't think many female veterans from Iraq and Afghanistan support the recent, shared bathroom deal. Women traveled in groups to outside latrines in combat zones. There is a LOT of unrecognized, rape-related PTSD still haunting female veterans of Iraq and Afghanistan.

postatomic

(1,771 posts)
3. "Legally use contraceptives with your husband in every state"
Sat May 28, 2016, 10:02 PM
May 2016

And serve on Juries??!!

You know, this wasn't that many years ago. We've come a long way but have a long way to go.

sheshe2

(84,072 posts)
5. It was in 1951.
Sat May 28, 2016, 10:21 PM
May 2016

At least for Massachusetts... others varied.

•When the first two Massachusetts women were seated as jurors in 1951, there were only nine states left in the country that did not permit women jurors. Even so, Massachusetts allowed women to seek an exemption based on their gender, and was the only state to allow a woman to be excused from certain cases if the testimony or deliberations might prove embarrassing to her.


http://www.mass.gov/courts/jury-info/mass-jury-system/history/

I know, watched the video, while waiting to be called for jury. I was summoned for duty last Thursday.

ailsagirl

(22,911 posts)
8. Then the premise of the quiz is wrong
Sat May 28, 2016, 10:27 PM
May 2016

They should be sure of their facts before making these pronouncements

marybourg

(12,650 posts)
22. Notice they qualified
Sun May 29, 2016, 01:22 AM
May 2016

many of their (true) assertions by the (weasel) words, "in every state" or "wasn't REQUIRED". For instance, it was only one state -Connecticut - that banned contraceptive devices and products. And just because something wasn't required doesn't mean it was prohibited. Just because it wasn't illegal to fire a woman who was pregnant, doesn't mean all pregnant women were fired.

This is basically entertainment; they aren't wrong, but they are misleading and careful reading is needed to get at the truth.

ailsagirl

(22,911 posts)
24. A least there was a grain of truth there
Sun May 29, 2016, 02:34 AM
May 2016

But you're right. I hesitated posting the thread in GD but ultimately chose it over the Lounge because the subject matter was important.

Still... I learned that Cornell was the first of the Ivy League universities to allow women entry-- back 146 years ago-- kudos!! (a family member graduated from Cornell)

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
9. Re: serving on a jury
Sat May 28, 2016, 10:28 PM
May 2016

in the mid '70s I had just started at a new job when I got my first jury duty summons. I was young and didn't know what to do or what my rights were so, I showed the summons to my boss - who pointed out the part that stated I was exempt for being a woman (there were other exemptions, e.g., for being above a certain age). It annoyed the hell out of me but I had to opt out because of that.

NewJeffCT

(56,829 posts)
12. A woman couldn't get a mortgage on her own until the 1970s
Sat May 28, 2016, 10:31 PM
May 2016

before that, a woman would need her father, husband or another male relative to co-sign on a mortgage. Not sure of the exact date that stopped, but I think it was somewhere around 73 or 74

Gormy Cuss

(30,884 posts)
32. Women were already in the workforce and many earned enough to qualify on their own
Sun May 29, 2016, 11:09 AM
May 2016

Single women were considered in a temporary phase until a man could take care of them again. Single men on the other hand were considered stable.

ailsagirl

(22,911 posts)
35. That's true
Sun May 29, 2016, 02:33 PM
May 2016

Another prevailing/sexist belief (re single women)

But I meant women entering the workforce en masse-- that is, both in record numbers,
and in managerial positions. That happened later.

Sorry to be imprecise re the dates-- or even the decades this happened. I tried looking
it up but there was way too much info to plow through.

Gormy Cuss

(30,884 posts)
36. The thing is, there were many women in the workforce in spite of the legal barriers
Sun May 29, 2016, 03:19 PM
May 2016

like employers being allowed to consider gender for jobs and promotions, not to mention compensation. It started to change only as the laws were enacted beginning in the '60s, but there were still many legal ways to treat women differently for at least another decade. Rather than the critical mass of women in the workforce effecting change it was legislation that made working (and attending college BTW) more attractive that boosted the numbers of women in better paying jobs/careers.

Odin2005

(53,521 posts)
15. There are 4 states where co-habitation is still illegal???
Sat May 28, 2016, 11:01 PM
May 2016

Jesus Christ, I grew up in Minnesota in the 90s and NOBODY cared if people were "living in sin" together. I thought people stopped caring about that in the 70s...

NutmegYankee

(16,207 posts)
26. It may be on the books but the laws are unenforceable.
Sun May 29, 2016, 08:51 AM
May 2016

I broke Virginia's fornication laws when I lived there, but the law was rarely enforced. It was later made invalid by the 2003 SCOTUS decision that banned states from criminalizing relationships between two consenting adults.

KauaiK

(544 posts)
17. I remember this well. In fact...
Sat May 28, 2016, 11:33 PM
May 2016

I think it's why when someone tells me I can't do something a switch in my brain goes .."Oh yeah? Watch me". I do not take the rights I have for granted for 1 second. AND neither YOU.

Not included in this list is that if a wife inherited something, it automatically belonged to her husband - not her.

- I was denied more than one job because I was of "childbearing age".

- I was told that my income would not count toward purchasing a car for myself because I was a female. (I wanted to leap across the desk and grab the guy by the throat!).

- If a HS school girl got pregnant she was thrown out of school; not the boy (although sometimes the boy would be kicked out of Phys. Ed. like pregnancy was a contagious disease).

I could offer more instances. DO NOT TAKE EVER YOUR RIGHTS FOR GRANTED.

TygrBright

(20,780 posts)
21. Very misleading title.
Sun May 29, 2016, 12:42 AM
May 2016

Should be "15 Ordinary Things Women WEREN'T ALLOWED to Do in 1960."

Which was, yes... crazy.

But then, that's what patriarchy is.

wearily,
Bright

Bucky

(54,094 posts)
28. or better yet...
Sun May 29, 2016, 09:54 AM
May 2016

15 ordinary things women could be denied the right to do in 1960

My fave:

Legally use contraceptives with your husband in every state.


I think even today it'd be pretty difficult to use a contraceptive in EVERY state. Just think of how exhausting all that travel would be.

pmorlan1

(2,096 posts)
30. I also remember
Sun May 29, 2016, 10:26 AM
May 2016

from my childhood that girls were not allowed to wear pants to school. When it was winter we were allowed to wear pants under our dress/skirt but had to take them off at school. We also were not allowed to take shop. We had to take home economics. The culture also funneled us into doing "women's" jobs.

katmondoo

(6,457 posts)
31. To this day I have refused all offers of an American Express card
Sun May 29, 2016, 11:00 AM
May 2016

because they took mine away when I divorced. Same for Sears even though I made more money than a lot of men they refused me credit and all I wanted to do was buy a washing machine. As for a mortgage my ex agreed to sign for me because we had two kids. I was allowed to keep the house in my name only. A bank loan forget that. This was the 1960's and life as a woman.

Gormy Cuss

(30,884 posts)
33. My mother paid off the Sears charge after my parents divorced.
Sun May 29, 2016, 11:12 AM
May 2016

Never late for a year and a half and when she asked to have the card put in her name only they just cancelled it because she was a single woman.

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