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xchrom

(108,903 posts)
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 06:44 AM Jun 2012

America: Where It's Easier to Get a Gun Than Good Mental Health Care

http://www.alternet.org/story/155724/america%3A_where_it%27s_easier_to_get_a_gun_than_good_mental_health_care/

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Last spring my younger sister Kathy jumped off a freeway bridge in Phoenix. For better or worse, she lived. Kathy made her first suicide gesture in high school, when she took a handful of, I think, aspirin in reaction to a bad haircut. At the time, she was already, obviously, mentally ill. In middle school, anorexia had drawn her down to a skeletal 38 pounds. Her hair fell out. Her sunken face took on a plastic texture from fat-soluble vitamins that her body couldn’t process. Force-feeding brought her back from the brink, but couldn’t heal her. In the years since, even during three pregnancies, she has never topped 100 pounds, nor has she ever been free of compulsions, body-loathing or debilitating bouts of depression.

Since that first handful of analgesics, Kathy has made an effort to die somewhere between 12 and 15 times: prescription pills, threatened jumps from an apartment balcony and a communications tower, an attempt at drowning, a car set on fire. Kathy is alive because even in the heart of Arizona’s Wild West no one will sell her a gun; a fact she finds immensely frustrating at times that her bipolar illness takes her into another trough of despair.


For three days, Seattle has been reeling, grieving a wave of senseless violence that left five dead, including a shooter who was, from his family’s description, bipolar like my sister. Mentally ill women are most likely to exit this world alone or try to take their children with them. Some men prefer to go out in a blaze of rage and blood. Either way, access to a gun makes the impulse more lethal. Firearms are two and a half times more effective than the next method of suicide, suffocation. According to Centers for Disease Control statistics for 2003-2007, gunshots represented only 3 percent of suicide attempts, but almost half of fatalities. So far this year, over 40,000 people in the U.S. have been shot. By December 31, we can expect to bury about 9,500, each dead at the hands of someone pulling a trigger. Guns were designed to be effective, efficient killing machines, and they work very well.

When someone kills – we ask why? It’s a worthy question. A part of the answer that haunts me (because it seems so preventable) is the way we choose as a society to prioritize our resources. We build for-profit prisons across the country, with lock-up room for minor drug offenders. But while prisons are growing, prevention and treatment services are disappearing.
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America: Where It's Easier to Get a Gun Than Good Mental Health Care (Original Post) xchrom Jun 2012 OP
"Guns were designed to be effective, efficient killing machines, and they work very well." - so true DrDan Jun 2012 #1
A steep downward slope in the case of guns. nt hack89 Jun 2012 #17
or a job... leeroysphitz Jun 2012 #2
The stigma of mental illness keeps people from seeking treatment. Phhhtttt Jun 2012 #3
It's no wonder we're half nuts agent46 Jun 2012 #13
The propaganda is surreal.NT Phhhtttt Jun 2012 #15
What they really need is NRA training in gun safety... rfranklin Jun 2012 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author bupkus Jun 2012 #8
In the event that your post was not sarcasm... OneTenthofOnePercent Jun 2012 #12
This country doesn't have the brains Shankapotomus Jun 2012 #5
This country IS mentally ill. n/t ProfessionalLeftist Jun 2012 #11
Tragic and angry k/r marmar Jun 2012 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author bupkus Jun 2012 #7
Here (UK) is pretty bad too Prophet 451 Jun 2012 #9
Is it pretentious and self deluded to refuse someone's choice to kill themselves? OneTenthofOnePercent Jun 2012 #10
Very few people really want to die; LuvNewcastle Jun 2012 #18
My guess is the ones that really want to die OneTenthofOnePercent Jun 2012 #19
Excellent OP malaise Jun 2012 #14
Those 2 things are not comparable at all. It's also easier to get an apple.. Honeycombe8 Jun 2012 #16
The solution? Improve health care NickB79 Jun 2012 #20

DrDan

(20,411 posts)
1. "Guns were designed to be effective, efficient killing machines, and they work very well." - so true
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 07:17 AM
Jun 2012

and both are continuing on their unfortunate slopes

Phhhtttt

(70 posts)
3. The stigma of mental illness keeps people from seeking treatment.
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 07:36 AM
Jun 2012

Your supposed to be "happy" in the land of plenty,instead we live in a sick society.I read in a NAMI(National alliance for the mentally ill)article that half the American population suffers from mental illness.

People are so paranoid in our culture they think they need a gun.If that isn't mental illness I don't know what is.

agent46

(1,262 posts)
13. It's no wonder we're half nuts
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 09:59 AM
Jun 2012

Americans spend every waking moment being lied to and manipulated. Every moment.

 

rfranklin

(13,200 posts)
4. What they really need is NRA training in gun safety...
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 07:47 AM
Jun 2012

Thought I would post it and save the NRA shills the effort.

Response to rfranklin (Reply #4)

 

OneTenthofOnePercent

(6,268 posts)
12. In the event that your post was not sarcasm...
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 09:17 AM
Jun 2012

FYI... Ammunition IS protected under the umbrella os "arms" by the 2nd Ammendment.
It would be as equally difficult to ban ammo as it would be to actually ban guns.

Response to xchrom (Original post)

Prophet 451

(9,796 posts)
9. Here (UK) is pretty bad too
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 09:10 AM
Jun 2012

I suffer from Major Depressive Disorder and a host of stuff that goes along with that. There is such a stigma in both our countries attached to mental illness that I didn't get treatment until my partner insisted when I was inb my mid-20s.

 

OneTenthofOnePercent

(6,268 posts)
10. Is it pretentious and self deluded to refuse someone's choice to kill themselves?
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 09:14 AM
Jun 2012

In a free country, if someone chooses that they REALLY want to die shuold they be allowed to die?

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
16. Those 2 things are not comparable at all. It's also easier to get an apple..
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 07:50 AM
Jun 2012

than to get health care. So what? Apples are not comparable to health care at all.

NickB79

(19,301 posts)
20. The solution? Improve health care
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 04:25 PM
Jun 2012

More regulations and bans on guns is a band-aid solution to the mental health problem in this country that has little real impact. It's also been shown to be a real dog when it comes to public support for such measures.

What we need is single-payer health insurance like every other civilized country on this planet. I suffered with depression throughout my 20's, and there were times it was a bitch to get to see a doctor. Either he'd be booked for 3 months straight or my health insurance didn't want to cover a visit. It was a nightmare, and I thank God I was able to recover.

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