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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsOn my facebook page this morning...
The quote's an oldie, but a goodie. He wrote it for the TV series "The West Wing"
elleng
(131,461 posts)for SANITY!
SnowCritter
(810 posts)My wife and I watch them in their entirety about twice a year.
Love it!
calimary
(81,612 posts)The idea that - SOMEWHERE, SOMEHOW, there was at least the thought of a proud liberal President and staff - that was for the most part pretty effective with the media. Even if it was only in fantasy and fiction. At least that idea was still embraced - SOMEWHERE that counted.
elleng
(131,461 posts)calimary
(81,612 posts)I remember reading an Aaron Sorkin piece during Campaign 2008 in which he imagined that candidate Barack Obama went to visit former President Jed Bartlet at his New Hampshire farm. Bartlet took him to task for not being tougher on his opponents, and, in particular, denounced the dumbing-down of America and how many voters seem to gravitate toward candidates who are stupid and ill-informed, while we cut funding to schools, lay off teachers, and seek mainly to "teach to the test." And Bartlet advised Obama to stare 'em down and challenge the entire metastasizing sickness of aiming low and racing to the bottom - straight in the face. Put it to these people: "just what is it with you people - what do you have against excellence?"
GREAT question. Still not answered.
patrice
(47,992 posts)adigal
(7,581 posts)I may tag my conservative cousins, just to see their heads spin!!
dreampunk
(88 posts)now I will re-post it on my facebook...ask that it be shared around the world!
Rainngirl
(243 posts)But there are tons of stupid comments on there from Fox Kool-aid drinkers. They don't even make any sense! Yet they always seem to make their crazy statements with conviction. Idiots.
Douglas Carpenter
(20,226 posts)Faux pas
(14,717 posts)amuse bouche
(3,657 posts)But how can I make a copy?
calimary
(81,612 posts)your choices will include "Save this image" and that should allow you to save it to your computer. I have a Mac so I don't have a "right-click." So instead I put the cursor on the image, and click "Control" and the mousepad at the same time. Probably am not explaining it very well, but when you have that little mousepad built-in on your laptop and you click on the lower third of it to do something on the computer, just hit the "Control" button at the same time you click on the mousepad.
I do hope, though, that somebody who's sharper than I am at these things will weigh in. I may be committing malpractice here.
Indydem
(2,642 posts)While damn near all of that is true, the women's vote was secured by republicans. Susan B. Anthony was a republican, and the vote was republican driven, filibustered by democrats, and long opposed by president Wilson until it was politically expedient for him to support it.
ErikJ
(6,335 posts)Nineteenth Amendment-Wikipedia
Many groups were opposed to women's suffrage at the time.
On January 12, 1915, a suffrage bill was brought before the House of Representatives but was defeated by a vote of 204 to 174. Another bill was brought before the House on January 10, 1918. On the evening before, President Wilson made a strong and widely published appeal to the House to pass the bill. It was passed by two-thirds of the House, with only one vote to spare. The vote was then carried into the Senate. Again President Wilson made an appeal, but on September 30, 1918, the amendment fell two votes short of passage.[citation needed] On February 10, 1919, it was again voted upon, and then it was lost by only one vote.[citation needed]
There was considerable anxiety among politicians of both parties to have the amendment passed and made effective before the general elections of 1920, so the President called a special session of Congress, and a bill, introducing the amendment, was brought before the House again. On May 21, 1919, it was passed, 42 votes more than necessary being obtained. On June 4, 1919, it was brought before the Senate, and after a long discussion it was passed, with 56 ayes and 25 nays. Within a few days, Illinois, Wisconsin, and Michigan ratified the amendment, their legislatures being then in session. Other states followed suit at a regular pace, until the amendment had been ratified by 35 of the necessary 36 state legislatures. After Washington on March 22, 1920, ratification languished for months. Finally, on August 26, 1920, Tennessee narrowly ratified the Nineteenth Amendment, making it the law throughout the United States.[62]
Nearly twenty years later Maryland ratified the amendment in 1941. After another ten years, in 1952, Virginia ratified the nineteenth amendment, followed by Alabama in 1953.[63] After another 16 years Florida and South Carolina passed the necessary votes to ratify in 1969, followed two years later by Georgia[64] and Louisiana in 1970[65] in 1971.
Mississippi did not ratify the nineteenth amendment until 1984, sixty four years after the law was enacted nationally.[66]
Indydem
(2,642 posts)During the beginning of the 20th century, as women's suffrage faced several important federal votes, a portion of the suffrage movement known as the National Women's Party led by suffragette Alice Paul became the first "cause" to picket outside the White House. Paul and Lucy Burns led a series of protests against the Wilson Administration in Washington. Wilson ignored the protests for six months, but on June 20, 1917, as a Russian delegation drove up to the White House, suffragettes unfurled a banner which stated; "We women of America tell you that America is not a democracy. Twenty million women are denied the right to vote. President Wilson is the chief opponent of their national enfranchisement".[71] Another banner on August 14, 1917, referred to "Kaiser Wilson" and compared the plight of the German people with that of American women. With this manner of protest, the women were subject to arrests and many were jailed.[72] On October 17, Alice Paul was sentenced to seven months and on October 30 began a hunger strike, but after a few days prison authorities began to force feed her.[71] After years of opposition, Wilson changed his position in 1918 to advocate women's suffrage as a war measure.[73]
The key vote came on June 4, 1919, when the Senate approved the amendment by 56 to 25 after four hours of debate, during which Democratic Senators opposed to the amendment filibustered to prevent a roll call until their absent Senators could be protected by pairs. The Ayes included 36 (82%) Republicans and 20 (54%) Democrats. The Nays comprised 8 (18%) Republicans and 17 (46%) Democrats. It was ratified by sufficient states in 1920, the Nineteenth Amendment, which prohibited state or federal sex-based restrictions on voting.[74]
ErikJ
(6,335 posts)THe Dixiecrats all became Republican after the Civil Rights Act of 1965. The GOP's Southern Strategy. Wiki:
In American politics, the Southern strategy refers to the Republican Party strategy of winning elections in Southern states by exploiting anti-African American racism and fears of lawlessness among Southern white voters and appealing to fears of growing federal power in social and economic matters (generally lumped under the concept of states' rights). Though the "Solid South" had been a longtime Democratic Party stronghold due to the Democratic Party's defense of slavery prior to the American Civil War and segregation for a century thereafter, many white Southern Democrats stopped supporting the party following the civil rights plank of the Democratic campaign in 1948 (triggering the Dixiecrats), the African-American Civil Rights Movement, the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and Voting Rights Act of 1965, and desegregation.
The strategy was first adopted under future Republican President Richard Nixon and Republican Senator Barry Goldwater[1] in the late 1960s.[2] The strategy was successful in some regards. It contributed to the electoral realignment of Southern states to the Republican Party, but at the expense of losing more than ninety percent of black voters to the Democratic Party. As the twentieth century came to a close, the Republican Party began trying to appeal again to black voters, though with little success.[2] In 2005, Republican National Committee chairman Ken Mehlman formally apologized for his party's use of the Southern Strategy in the previous century.[3]
jeff47
(26,549 posts)They were Republicans that hated Lincoln so much that they could not join the Republican party.
Until their hatred of Blacks overruled their hatred of Lincoln during the Johnson administration.
ErikJ
(6,335 posts)JJ
(3,196 posts)at least liberal on social issues, if not economic ones.
NOLALady
(4,003 posts)and the Radical Republicans were Liberal.
lastlib
(23,397 posts)Conservatives made corporations people and sold our democratic process to them--for money.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Kablooie
(18,648 posts)The conservative faction wanted to suck it up and remain a faithful colony of England.
Pool Hall Ace
(5,849 posts)that is founded on their interpretation Christian Bible.
ErikJ
(6,335 posts)Does anybody know it?
Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)DianaForRussFeingold
(2,552 posts)"Where would we be right now, if the people who sat here before us decided not to build our highways, not to build our bridges, our dams, our airports.. What would this country be like, if we had chosen not to spend money on public high schools or research universities or community colleges."...more"
From the State of the Union address, President Obama talks about the GI Bill And MORE,
(48 seconds!); PBS News Hour:
Curmudgeoness
(18,219 posts)Long live the liberals!!!
Ashley96
(23 posts)YellowRubberDuckie
(19,736 posts)It's already been shared a few times as well. =)
Thanks for sharing.
calimary
(81,612 posts)Along with my steadfast refusal to accept that "liberal" would be considered some sort of dirty word. I'm proud of that heritage!
tblue
(16,350 posts)He annoys me until I cannot bear to watch him. But I like this quote and I'll probably share it too! Thanks!!!
Pab Sungenis
(9,612 posts)If only real life liberals would grow this spine.
Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)From The Debate episode, season seven of the West Wing
"The Debate" between Arnold Vinick and Matt Santos
Written by Lawrence O'Donnell
KeepItReal
(7,769 posts)Something I'm posting to my Facebook page in November...
Tripod
(854 posts)eaglesfanintn
(82 posts)And, as others have pointed out, he didn't say Republican or Democrats did this. Both parties can check off the accomplishments they were responsible for (or at least in power at the time). But, there are precious few in the Republican party today that would be proud of those that their party could take credit for.
You can call me "liberal" or "progressive" if you want or, you could just call me a human being that thinks that, indeed, all men are created equal and that we should look out for our fellow humans, a human that thinks that we are caretakers of this world and we're doing a pretty crappy job of it and an American that's usually proud of what this country can do when our hearts and minds are working together.
DianaForRussFeingold
(2,552 posts)give a great speech in Ohio... I came to check out this op..
I just wanted you to know, I saw your post and I love it!
It's so true! Welcome to DU!