in the West, if it were all white. IMO that person had a good point. The UK is whiter than the US. IOW it's ok to help people if they are white. The right has no problem with social programs. But they'd rather have no help at all than share such a system with brown people.

I have no idea why people are so racist, but I guess with the ridiculous crap thrown at Obama we know that they are.

But, now that I think about it, that makes 100% sense.

The tory and labour parties both support NHS. they seem to differ in key issues such as austerity, trident, and tpp. But, I don't profess to know that much about English politics. It is what I gather here and there.

To be fair, I don't think conservatives here even know what it really means. We seem to have crazy and crazier.

Tory government had been relentlessly cutting the NHS. The Leave side were able to use that and then flip it on "oh that was a mistake". The Tories will kill the NHS given a chance.

Like all issue is the European Union is very complex.

The arguments for and against the union don't split along the traditional left right spectrum. There are left wing arguments for and against the EU. And there right wing arguments for and against the EU. When Britian first entered the ECC in 1975 much of the euroskepticism came from the left.


But the argument of the leave campaign was constantly about demonizing immigrants not about the economic benefits to the country.

I heard Barney Frank speak the other day. When someone asked him about Brexit he said, "The people who backed Brexit are like the dog who actually caught the car. Now that they caught the car they have no idea what to do."

or Australia. Both are very careful about immigration's impact on their social welfare systems.

22% of Australia's population is foreign-born; 19% of Canada's; 11% in the US; 8% in the UK. In Sweden the foreign-born are 15%; 11% in Norway; 17% in Ireland; 13% in Germany.

http://www.migrationpolicy.org/programs/data-hub/comparing-migrant-stock-foreign-born-australia-canada-and-united-states-region
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign-born_population_of_the_United_Kingdom

The UK has about the lowest immigration rate of any western country.

are the friends of NHS and the working class.

privatization of the NHS. E.g. Michael Gove and Daniel Hannan - you may remember the latter for going to the USA a few years ago, and appearing on Fox News urging Americans not to imitate the '60-year mistake' of the NHS.