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(9,766 posts)malaise
(269,352 posts)fugging WMDs either.
Dreamer Tatum
(10,926 posts)pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)TheCowsCameHome
(40,169 posts)Midway through the article, it gives the exact date of the birth of ISIS - 4/11/2003 - half a million armed, bored fighters looking for something to do.
malaise
(269,352 posts)Not sure they were bored - more like their version of the resistance movement. As we both know and say there are always more than two sides to war - let alone an illegal one.
egduj
(807 posts)You almost make it sound like they should be admired.
malaise
(269,352 posts)but more than a few of us knew what would happen after the illegal invasion and occupation.
When we were bombing up their malls, their universities, and their entire fugging country, what the fugg did we expect - garlands of flowers - oh yes Rumsfeld and Cheney expected that.
JI7
(89,289 posts)melman
(7,681 posts)FUCK!
JI7
(89,289 posts)malaise
(269,352 posts)the Western allies kill, maim or torture?
There is never one side to war.
JI7
(89,289 posts)The target of those attacks.
Volaris
(10,281 posts)After Paul Bremmer fired them all from military and police service and DIDN'T EVEN BOTHER TO DISARM FIRST. It took less than a week and the first IED directed at American forces went off. Bremmer STILL thinks the de-Baathifacation of Iraqi government was the best decision he made as Provincial Governer.
Because he's an Idiot.
TheCowsCameHome
(40,169 posts)The point is cutting the army loose got the ball rolling.
malaise
(269,352 posts)The whole darn gang is responsible for these war crimes.
Everyone should read this article
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B2G
(9,766 posts)malaise
(269,352 posts)but I changed my mind.
melman
(7,681 posts)mountain grammy
(26,676 posts)spanone
(135,951 posts)malaise
(269,352 posts)They spread freedom and democracy
spanone
(135,951 posts)kentauros
(29,414 posts)We had an opportunity to take out Zarqawi. But, as that was during the lead-up to the Iraq war, well, we know what their priorities were.
And I'm with you on this
I don't expect the world to come together in solidarity, either...
malaise
(269,352 posts)kentauros
(29,414 posts)People often recommend Vice to me, but Frontline is so much better and I recommend Frontline back to them. Vice is like Frontline for people with short attention spans. Just not enough information can be crammed into 10-12 minutes before the next commercial break.
malaise
(269,352 posts)Will watch this after the football match -France v Iceland
kentauros
(29,414 posts)Enjoy your game!
Whereas I need to make lunch and then make a cake
JI7
(89,289 posts)GeorgeGist
(25,327 posts)These attacks ...
JI7
(89,289 posts)oasis
(49,490 posts)KeizoOshima2
(17 posts)They've suffered so much misery over the past decade or so. I hope things get better for them in the future.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)when he invaded and occupied Iraq. I believe it. We could have given every Iraqi their per capita income for years with what the war cost us, and probably gotten a lot better results.
malaise
(269,352 posts)It was a disaster and it continues to be a disaster. I don't think most Americans know what was done in their name.