Which is was, so back to the op: Did you support the Iraq war?

Please note that Trump fluffery is not welcome on DU

Did you support the war or not? This is not trump fluffery, considering most people on here have said that Saddam should have been left in for the past 10+ years.

might say about Saddam Hussein. If he spoke admiringly of Saddam's governance, then I disagree with him about that. Saddam and his two sons were ruthless and vicious. There are people who think it's cool for a leader to brutalize his people. I'm just not one of them.

But as you can see in the Chilicot report, the current situation is worse.

The OP is act like Trump made some profound statement on US policy, when that is far from the case.

I'm saying that Iraq is worse off now. And people are just outrage because Trump said it.

at all.

This isn't just because Trump said it? Could have fooled me. I don't think this would be all over twitter if it was Bernie.

use torture and murder to control the "undesirable" elements of our society. He knows what he's doing.

If you agree with Trump it's okay by me. Just keep it off of DU.

Not that I agree with his statement. I think that the US should not have invaded Iraq. I also think that if the US hadn't invaded Iraq, it's likely that Saddam Hussein would have remained in power.

I can understand criticizing Trump's comments.

and Trump would said he'd be like Saddam.

The US did official business with Saddam for years (Rumsfeld)

a six year old could tell you that. It doesn't qualify them to be president.

I'm against it.

I did not support the war. In fact I protested it.

Seems some people like above can't do something simple like answer a simple Yes/No question.


No question saddam being disposed lead to the power vacuum which lead to ISIS.

2) What is concerning people is that your post appears to express support for Trump.

Let's be clear as to exactly what he said:

I haven't heard anyone say "Saddam was awful, no exceptions" until trump says something yesterday. Keep in mind we are supporting a candidate that voted for the invasion.

Including our VP and current SoS.

If you have issues with someone someone said about Saddam, you should take it up with that person/s. Interrogating random people doesn't achieve that.

So why can't people admit it's just Trump that everyone is opposed to. And those people from congress are long gone, Joe and John are not running for president.

Like a lot of people he decided it was bad in retrospect. He gets no points from me for jonesing about Saddam murdering the political opposition.

Your strawman argument is wearing thin. Again, if someone said something you disagree with, take it up with them.

You know it is possible to oppose the war, understand that Iraq is a clusterfuck, and still think Trump is an imbecile who says reckless things? You don't seem to get that.

Be accurate when making claims. There is no strawman here, and frankly no grey area. We as a society judge statements on substance, not who says them. I'm sure you didn't like when the berniebros took Hillary out of context whenever she opened her mouth.

Trump's response: “Yeah, I guess so. You know, I wish it was, I wish the first time it was done correctly.”
http://www.factcheck.org/2016/02/donald-trump-and-the-iraq-war/
So. There you have it. Prior to the invasion Trump says he supports the invasion.

Weak support, but I concede. The point was that some people are saying saddam was so bad, but the current situation is good?

As you know, the current nominee of the democratic party (which I support) voted for the war. The opposition rings hollow on this one. I'm interested to hear your thoughts.

Why?

Why so many people love war just because Trump said something is beyond me.


This is a question to so who really was against the war.

You really dropped the curtain with that one.

You don't get to talk out of both sides of your mouth on this one. Unless you have the same position the Saudis have.

made up stuff

yup

Stop playing stupid.

That sounds like it doesn't apply to you?

Not one.

So what's your point anyway?

yup

lest we forget and rewrite history, the reason Congress voted to invade Iraq was because of the atmosphere of fear that Bush/Cheney played on. If a member of Congress didn't support it, they were labeled a traitor or coward and would lose their seat. The media didn't DARE challenge any of this. Keith Olbermann and Phil Donahue were about the only ones and where are they?

It was definitely a black time in this country, when MILLIONS march against a war, not only here, but in England, and we were ignored like it didn't even happen.

The majority of DU was against the war and could not believe that the massive protests did not turn the tide against the war. We didn't realize how set Bush/Cheney were on the idea.
And you are conflating the ideas of being for the war and being against Hussein--attacking the country was NOT the only option, nor the best for ending his reign of terror.

the way to deal with terrorists.

This is the irony, but until 2004, he did support it.

BTW, I did not.

And frankly, you're right that Iraq is worse now, but this does not mean that Saddam Hussein's methods were good.

It was a huge mistake from the beginning. I knew that. It's telling how others did not.

Those two facts aren't mutually exclusive. Not sure why that's so hard for some people to understand.

but he's right on this one thing. Saddam, for all his evil doings, was a stabilizing force in the region. Taking him out was ripping the scab off the festering wound that was the Middle East. It wasn't just morally wrong to invade, it was stupid on a cosmic scale.

Trump is an asshole, and will always be one, but he was right this time. Of course, I have no idea what his opinion on this was last week, and will not speculate what he will change it to next week.

and some of them were terrorists.

I do not disagree with your analysis of the problems with removing Saddam, but Trump is wrong and his statement is dangerous.

it was pro torture and gassing of whomever Trump claims as a terrorist. Take this Trump humping elsewhere.

I was against the war in Iraq...are you on the right site?

Not patting myself on the back but I called it with 95% accuracy of what would happen and where we are today.

It was so simple to see...so freaking obvious.