This information sorely needs to be broadcast far and wide, and very loudly; as
it explains SO much in one stroke. It isn't entirely clear why this FBI Report is
so heavily redacted, except to hide the shocking nature of this information from
an unsuspecting public. However, the title itself is enough to give me chills.

Thanks for your OP. The alternet article is new to me, so I'll check that out too.

authority is correct. Many are Lemmings IMO. Marching along in their rut of life, never looking out and questioning, WTF is going on. Yep, willfully ignorant.

The only thing I can think of is that maybe it is a lot to take in and is too scary and hard to accept.

This is central to what is going on today. And like you said, it explains so much in 1 stroke. Sometimes, I think there are forces or there who don't want it to get attention because that would mean we would have to actually make changes.

Maybe now with the racial tensions so high that people are willing to really address this problem?

Edit: I hate auto correct. I really do.

on the populace. Is it any wonder the Chicago PD and FBI murdered Fred Hampton in his bed? Because if black, Latino, Asian and white workers ever got together, there would be no more 1%.

And of course he is a republican. I can't remember his name off the top of my head. But clearly it is rampant and goes very high up. That ideology is cracking. I sense change is upon us.

He was at the top of the KKK and Repugs still voted for him election after election. I think he died 20 years ago.

a fierce opponent of the Iraq War and the Bush Junta.

would look him up and be surprised and enlightened by his transformation. I came to admire that about him

Racism exists in nominally socialist countries too.

Sure that qualifies as racism, properly speaking. Cuba, the DDR, the USSR all largely eliminated racism, as has the DPRK.But don't allow facts to disturb your convenient myth.

Because they are rife with racism.

Name any country that is purely socialist anyway.

the means of production is privately owned and controlled. The ranks of truly socialist nations, where the means of production is publicly owned and controlled, have shrunk greatly since the counter-revolutions in the USSR and China. Cuba, DPRK and Vietnam still embody socialism as it has been historically construed. There is little or no racism in any of the three.

There is much incentive for denialism.

that it's such a dark picture of our police departments .. that is only part of the picture and
"good cops" also get the blame.

Of course there are other less savory reasons as well ..

Maybe we are ready .. finally .. to deal with this shit. Let's hope.

On Edit: I have no illusions about 'good cops' .. because even the 'good' ones cover for the bad
99% of the time. They aren't really good until they rise to the level of Serpico.

At the very least lower the rates of those senseless deaths. This just needs to be in the forefront of our social landscape.

This seems like something Congress would be having hearings about instead of someone's email server.

Racism and white supremacy in police departments, not to mention militarization of said police departments is something that Congress needs to investigate far more than who used what email server.

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Every past association with organizations that are on the SPLC list -- OR with people in those organizations, even if the cop wasn't in the org himself -- calls for immediate indefinite mandatory unpaid leave until the following stipulations are met:

The cop can only be readmitted on probation with a certificate of completion and grade of B or better in three college level) courses:

a) black history and literature
b) basic anthropology
c) women's world history

The above stipulation serves the public's overriding right to get quality police professionalism, and it is NOT negotiable with police unions.

I'm missing ethics here, but those discussions come with the actual course studies. I'm also probably missing something else, but that's my concrete start to fix the KKK element of uniformed security.

This system should be mandatory for all private security firms, too.

In the meantime, more replacements can be hired. It will lower unemployment.

But you can't make them think. Re-education won't work. Like it or not, they have a right to be repugnant ass hats. They don't have the right to be in law enforcement though, that is a privilege.

Until this is tried and proven not to work, I stand by it.

I also challenge you to find any studies -- any similar practices -- that prove you right.

Re-education works when the re-educated are the minority of any classroom for any length of time.

Yes, they have mental and emotional habits. But if they fail on the job again, OUT. Then all that is added to their future job vetting.

So there is THAT way of still protecting the public. Even if you were right. Which you're not.

But education doesn't always rest in a textbook or classroom. I was talking with a friend about inherent racism and why it seems to exist more in certain areas than others. We think it comes down to exposure to diversity.

Perhaps in addition to the classwork, I would have them stay in an ethnic community or make them do community outreach. Something that exposes them to the "other" (whether it is other ethnicities, food, cultures, diction, customs, rituals, etc)

Sounds like the makings of an excellent professional development program that should be written into Public Law from the congressional level.

I say let's call Obama's legislative staff, or Dick Durbin, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid.

Who fought in Truman's newly integrated USMC In Korea, nothing cures a person of racism faster than having to depend on that person to cover your back.

You can lead a racist to education, .....But you can't make them think

Did you make that up? May I steal it?

At least two years. The ones only with a high school diploma are the most ignorant.

in this third largest country on the planet demand that no less than two years of college be a requirement of police hiring in this country.

Loved that you included women's world history, since the majority of the forces are men.

I think the internet's the real reason why they're so trigger itchy.

and do what is ethically right, how can they do so and be protected from their superiors and colleagues? "


The officer from Cleveland did just that. This is the time all good officers should speak out en masse. This is their chance to make a difference. The door has been opened by this woman.

So where are they?

They are examining video from Sterling's death and concocting stories that he tried to pull a gun on the cops and resisted arrest (why was he being arrested in the first place?) to exonerate the officers who had numerous complaints against them.
They are plastering that Castile was stopped for a robbery attempt not a tail light and that he didnt "obey orders"

If presidents were members of the kkk, it stands to reason that Congress would have members too. Just because you don't know about it doesn't mean they don't exist.

Here is a list of 11 notable people who were members of the kkk. They include Woodrow Wilson, coolidge, Warren g. Hardy, to name a few.

http://allday.com/post/1398-11-people-you-wouldnt-believe-used-to-be-in-the-kkk/

If the KKK allows gays, African-Americans and Jews in to the ranks, who will be left to hate?

The Muslims?

Join the military so they could learn how to shoot guns for the upcoming race wars. The military used to weed out these types but they were so desperate for soldiers to fight bush's illegal Iraq war, they lowered the standards. A lot of these people left the military and went into law enforcement as a "hire a vet thing" to them it was just a job not to protect and serve the community. Plus they had become dehumanized in Iraq against brown people.

I don't fermenter reading about them joining the military for that purpose. It makes sense. Just scary as hell.

We need to have a national dialogue about this.

The only way it will change is from within.

Glad to be vindicated. Just like the DS memo.

This is an FBI report. This is something that needs to be discussed. Not ridiculed, marginalized, or swept under the rug. Because, right now all around us, is what happens when we have been sweeping it under the rug. This needs to be brough into mainstream and discussed rationally with the intent of solving a deeply embedded problem.

have 'those types' of officers in the ranks.

This is not personal. The time is now. We cant ignore this anymore. Just because we talk about the bad apples in law enforcement does not, in any way, mean we don't support our law enforcement officers.

I support mine. And I appreciate what they do. But there are bad apples everywhere and law enforcement should not be immune to scrutiny. NOTHING should be immune to scrutiny. Nothing. Because if it was mired in truth, respect, and benvolence, it will be able to stand the scrutiny.


But we have a problem and the first step to addressing this is to assess the problem. So let's assess. Lay it all out there and see what we have.

I know I am preaching to the chior. It is just frustrating....

So many, after you peel back the layers, take it personal. Why? Comprehension of the aggregate imo. They fail every time to see the big picture.

— Rage Against the Machine, Killing in the Name

Whenever I see reports of yet another incident of a black man being killed by the police, RaTM's "Killing in the Name" always goes through my head, like a soundtrack as I read the report. Here are a couple more videos in addition to the one lame54 posted, plus a link to a lyrics page in case people want to copy-paste the lyrics.

Lyrics

Videos

Edit: for some reason, DU is refusing to let me embed the standard "Share" link that YouTube displays, so apologies. Below are the URLs what I wanted to embed with a couple spaces added so they'll display.

https: //yout u.be/7Zb_Ma7fJNw

https: //yout u.be/bWXazVhlyxQ

in rural town out in the west part of Texas. He told us he declined the offer, however, I'm not so sure he did. He is a racist and would tell us stories of how he would use force against POC when he worked for a larger city in Texas back in the 80's.

Real piece of work. I don't associate with him anymore.

Don't you think?

Or sociopaths
Seek out positions of power
In jobs that allow power over
others be it psych ward staff
A warden or a cop
Sociopaths bullies will
Form cliques protect thier own
Within that profession
It is really that
Way. Any bunch of assholes
or sociopaths that have carved
out a niche in a culture where
they can get
Control over others protect thier
Own kind within that culture.
The bad cops are protected by
bad supervisors
Bad judges etc.etc.
They protect thier same personality
type and intimidate the ones who are
not like them into silence
or compliance with bullying and
retaliation ect .
And once they are able to hire new people
They hire people like themselves.
All it takes is enough racist fuckfaces to be in
The right places of power in the police
Power structure and these sociopath
racist shit head assholes
can kill black people and lock them up with
Impunity.

Some of? Perhaps but this much? I doubt it.
More likely its due to many departments having extremely low standards for choosing applicants along with piss poor training.
Only real solution is to restart from scratch by making every officer reapply with new higher standards in place and if they pass then they have to go through and pass the new enhanced training so as to weed out any problems.
Probably take about 6 to 10 years to fix it though because they cant take all the officers off the streets but it could be done eventually.

In order for the DOJ to write a report like this. They have to know who the individual racist/white supremacists in law enforcement are......

For me, that's all it would take.

I know that there are good cops that are protecting the bad ones and we need to stop letting them do it.

From the report:

"The primary threat from infiltration or recruitment arises from the areas of intelligence collection and exploitation, which can lead to investigative breaches and jeopardize the safety of law enforcement sources and personnel.

White supremacist presence among law enforcement personnel is a concern due to the access they may posses to restricted areas vulnerable to sabotage and to elected officials or protected persons, whom they could see as potential targets for violence."

White supremacy is big in prison, so how dangerous would it be to have guards or cops that are sympathetic to criminal gangs in prison?

Documenting the FBI: Declassified Documents Provide New Detail on Confronting the Terrorist Threat – from al-Qaeda to Skinheads

New Archive Posting Opens Window into Broad Range of Recent FBI Operations

National Security Archive Electronic Briefing Book No. 386
Posted - July 19, 2012

http://nsarchive.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB386/

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Document 19: Federal Bureau of Investigation, The Terrorist Threat to the U.S. Homeland: An FBI Assessment, April 15, 2004. Secret/NOFORN.
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Document 26: Federal Bureau of Investigation, White Supremacist Infiltration of Law Enforcement, October 17, 2006. Unclassified/Law Enforcement Sensitive.
Source: FBI Freedom of Information Act Release

This assessment, drawn from open sources and FBI investigations, provides an overview of white supremacist infiltration of law enforcement. It reports the threats posed to intelligence collection and exploitation, as well as to elected officials and other protected persons. It also explains why different supremacist groups can benefit from a single penetration.
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Document 27: Federal Bureau of Investigation, Ghost Skins: The Fascist Path of Stealth, October 17, 2006. Unclassified/Law Enforcement Sensitive.
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Document 28: Federal Bureau of Investigation, White Supremacy: Contexts and Constraints for Suicide Terrorism, April 20, 2007. Unclassified/For Official Use Only/Law Enforcement Sensitive.
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Document 30: Federal Bureau of Investigation, A Threat Assessment for Domestic Terrorism, 2005 - 2006, September 18, 2007. Unclassified/For Official Use Only/Law Enforcement Sensitive.
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Document 33: Federal Bureau of Investigation, White Supremacist Recruitment of Military Personnel since 9/11, July 7, 2008. Unclassified/For Official Use Only/Law Enforcement Sensitive.
Source: www.cryptome.org

This assessment, based on FBI case files from October 2001 to May 2008, examines why white supremacist extremist groups sought to increase their recruitment of current and former U.S. military personnel, the extent of their success, and the impact of recruitment on the white supremacist movement.