At the same time, it's not required so if it's not funded it's not funded. Nobody needs a reason to not fund something.

Having the CDC do the research is a bit strange. Gun violence isn't a disease, apart from metaphorically. I don't think the CDC should waste money on car crashes or the incidence of rape, either. The people there have a job to do, and it's a damned important job that they currently don't have adequate resources to do. Yet they want to do things other than the job they should be doing now. If they don't like their job description, they can move on or use trivial resources on lunch breaks and after hours to help catapult their weekend research.

Meanwhile, lots of other folk are doing research on gun violence. It's just that it wouldn't have as much impact without the prestige of the CDC.

Gun violence may not be a disease, but it definitely is a healthcare issue, one that is costing us untold millions every single year.

Republicans are the paid slime balls of the NRA. Everybody sees now the bat-shit crazy use of gun violence going on. The NRA cowards like to hide behind the gun. The Republican Party and the NRA has zero character.

Straight Dem ticket voting no matter what.
Enough of their corruption & obstruction.
So sick of the damage they have done.
NRA can f off.

I am so sick of this shit!

They're forbidden from promoting gun control.

The actual text of the prohibition reads:

“None of the funds made available for injury prevention and control at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention may be used to advocate or promote gun control.”

Who decides what advocates or promotes gun control? Is it a direct thing? A tangential thing? We've seen the roll back of women's right to their bodily autonomy based on outright lies about fetal pain and viability, and ersatz concerns about women's health to set up clinic requirements that have nothing to do with women's health and everything to do with shutting down clinics.

This wording is intentionally vague so that practically anything can be characterized as advocating or promoting gun control; even the most basic research or data gathering will be shut down because it can be stove-piped into this language.

If they're as daft as you make them out to be, and they don't know the difference between advocacy and research, maybe they shouldn't be doing either.

All they have to do is claim something might lead to something that could advocate or promote gun control. The Hyde Amendment forbids federal funds being spent on abortion. Under the Hyde Amendment, Republicans have done everything they can to limit funds for women's health clinics like Planned Parenthood because PP does abortions, but doesn't spend any federal funds to provide them. Republicans know that, but they hassle PP endlessly over funding for cancer screenings and other life-saving services. They don't care that more women will die early; they're just playing games with women's lives to appease their anti-abortion base.

If the Hyde Amendment is any indication - and I'm sure it is - the Republicans (and a few Democrats) will use this language to effectively de-fund all research into firearms as a public health concern. More people will die needlessly to appease the NRA.

It looks like you and they are reading words in the 'no advocacy' legislation that do not appear in it.

How does that song go? I just can't stand those republicans.

by shame or pity"

I remember listening to it every night when I listened to the Mike Malloy show! Yes best and truest song ever written!

I used to call into his show when he was on WLS in Chicago, briefly, before they went total nazoid.

ski and skinner every sunday, nate clay......used to call them every show. started a long, continuing thread about them at Table Talk (salon), before I came here