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pokerfan

(27,677 posts)
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 01:19 AM Jul 2016

Rep. Rob Bishop (R-Utah) doesn't think Native artifacts, petroglyphs, etc. are antiquity

Normally this would be just one man's opinion or one congressman's opinion but Bishop happens to chair the House Natural Resources Committee.



On July 10 President Obama by proclamation created the Basin and Range National Monument in a remote wilderness region of southern Nevada. At the same, time two other national monuments were created: the Berryessa Snow National Monument in northern California, and Waco Mammoth national Monument in central Texas. Roughly 704,000 acres of undeveloped land, Basin and Range was created in part because it is a repository of ancient Native history, rich with petroglyphs and other archaeological evidence of human habitation going back at least 13,000 years. It is the ancient territory of the Southern Paiute people.

Kudos to President Obama for his foresight to protect such an important cultural heritage place. The site has been used for ranching, military training, and other recreational purposes and will continue to be with the oversight of the Bureau of Land Management. The national monument designation protects it by removing the possibility for the site to be opened to mining and other environmentally destructive processes.

One of the opponents of the Basin and Range proclamation was Representative Rob Bishop (R-Utah), Chairman of the House Natural Resources Committee, who blatantly referred to it as “bull crap.” Specifically, when asked about the antiquity of the Native artifacts there such as the cave paintings, he said “Ah bull crap. That’s not antiquity.”

If a historical site with artifacts that date back at least 13,000 years can’t be considered “antiquity,” what can? The statement was so asinine that even Rep. Raul Grijalva (D-Az.), bless his heart, wrote a commentary in ICTMN to express his concern about congress’ growing hostility toward Indian country in general, reflected in part by Bishop’s absurd claim.

Read more at http://indiancountrytodaymedianetwork.com/2015/07/28/rep-ron-bishop-and-real-bull-crap
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Rep. Rob Bishop (R-Utah) doesn't think Native artifacts, petroglyphs, etc. are antiquity (Original Post) pokerfan Jul 2016 OP
Protect Bears Ears L. Coyote Jul 2016 #1
Done with pleasure. sinkingfeeling Jul 2016 #8
such beautiful land and Native American history that is now protected.... chillfactor Jul 2016 #2
It's Utah. He means they can't be ancient because the Lamanites came to the New World in 600 BC. LeftyMom Jul 2016 #3
+1. Mark Twain did a great job panning the Book of Mormon in "Roughing It". nt Mc Mike Jul 2016 #4
Republicans only want to preserve WHITE history.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #5
Representative Rob Bishop (R-Utah), who, just like ISIS, simply wants to destroy everything he jtuck004 Jul 2016 #6
Both Republicans (i.e. Dominionists) & ISIS want to Drill Baby Drill. Pave the earth. Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2016 #7
If they aren't antiquities, Mendocino Jul 2016 #9
Some are Eric Cleese, some are "man." Igel Jul 2016 #10
Classic Mendocino Jul 2016 #11

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
1. Protect Bears Ears
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 01:26 AM
Jul 2016

Stand Behind Tribes to Protect Bears Ears

Led by the Hopi, Zuni, Ute Mountain Ute, Navajo and Ute Indian Tribes, and supported by more than 25 tribes across the Southwest as well as the National Congress of American Indians, the Bears Ears Inter-Tribal Coalition has called on the Obama administration to designate 1.9 million acres of public lands in southeastern Utah as a collaboratively-managed Bears Ears National Monument.

chillfactor

(7,595 posts)
2. such beautiful land and Native American history that is now protected....
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 01:33 AM
Jul 2016

Bishop is an asshat of the first degree..I bet if it was land that had some significance to HIMSELF...he would be the first one to be fighting to save it......Native American treasures.....nothing to be concerned about......it is all "bull crap."

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
3. It's Utah. He means they can't be ancient because the Lamanites came to the New World in 600 BC.
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 01:35 AM
Jul 2016

edit: The Book of Mormon is mind numbingly boring and the contents are hateful, violent and racist. It digs a trench under the already low standards of religious literature, but reading it once it is essential to understanding WTF half the Republicans west of the Mississippi are talking about.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
6. Representative Rob Bishop (R-Utah), who, just like ISIS, simply wants to destroy everything he
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 03:53 AM
Jul 2016

doesn't like. Has pledged his soul ISIS? Someone should check his telephone bill.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,087 posts)
7. Both Republicans (i.e. Dominionists) & ISIS want to Drill Baby Drill. Pave the earth.
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 06:26 AM
Jul 2016

They believe in burning up the earth because Jesus is coming any day now and their grandchildren won't have to live with the consequences. To the extent that even they have doubts about all that, they don't believe in science one bit and think we can shit all over the petri dish we call Planet Earth without fouling our nest.

Mendocino

(7,533 posts)
9. If they aren't antiquities,
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 09:51 AM
Jul 2016

then these lands can't be protected under the Antiquities Act, then they are open to being exploited would seem to be his logic.

Igel

(35,390 posts)
10. Some are Eric Cleese, some are "man."
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 11:15 AM
Jul 2016

I refer to the Python "argument sketch".



For some, saying "no" and making fun is an "argument." It's quick and easy.

For others, it's not. That tends to be slow and hard.

Mendocino

(7,533 posts)
11. Classic
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 12:15 PM
Jul 2016

MP and Firesign Theater, great material that exists on many levels, you can never really get to the bottom of it.

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