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Bucky

(54,094 posts)
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 06:13 AM Jul 2016

the Baton Rouge and Dallas murders are examples of the NRA fantasy

Last edited Mon Jul 18, 2016, 11:36 AM - Edit history (1)

For decades the NRA nuts have insisted that the point of the 2nd Amendment was so the people could fight and kill government officials when they were being oppressed.

The mass murder of police is exactly what the NRA has been pushing for all along. Congratulations, Wayne LaPierre. You win and civilization loses.

(on edit: changed New Orleans to Baton Rouge -- I was tired when I wrote this. I've had a good night's sleep, and now I'm only tired of this violence.)

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the Baton Rouge and Dallas murders are examples of the NRA fantasy (Original Post) Bucky Jul 2016 OP
Um, Baton Rouge is not New Orleans. rogerashton Jul 2016 #1
Ouch, thank you. I will fix this. Bucky Jul 2016 #11
Or Bunkie? eom rogerashton Jul 2016 #15
Another NRA fantasy Botany Jul 2016 #2
All proof that LaPeeError is an idiot. lastlib Jul 2016 #3
LaPierre knows what he is saying is crap but he is doing it for the money .... Botany Jul 2016 #5
Good guys with guns look exactly like bad guys with guns IronLionZion Jul 2016 #6
+1 Johonny Jul 2016 #12
Police are the first line of government civilians will encounter IronLionZion Jul 2016 #4
Fuck the NRA and their owned little punks the GOP Fast Walker 52 Jul 2016 #7
I agree, and I made a similar argument yesterday Orrex Jul 2016 #8
You kidding? Problem?!? Likely they love that the shooters are POC with a cause... jmg257 Jul 2016 #10
I am reminded of the blow-back against "Thelma and Louise" when it was women with guns Ford_Prefect Jul 2016 #9
I remember that too Skittles Jul 2016 #20
The Baton Rouge and Dallas murders are examples of murderous racist lunatics Bonx Jul 2016 #13
Like RW-White Insurrectionists, these 2 killers thought they were precipitating a rebellion maxsolomon Jul 2016 #14
I would'nt say Waco and Ruby Ridge were fantasies since they did happen Bernielover357743 Jul 2016 #16
That they represented a deliberate organized attempt to oppress rural white nationalists maxsolomon Jul 2016 #17
Which is why all BLM activists are denouncing the murders. Bucky Jul 2016 #18
Actually, a little boy fantasy. raven mad Jul 2016 #19

Bucky

(54,094 posts)
11. Ouch, thank you. I will fix this.
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 11:35 AM
Jul 2016

What's embarrassing is that I'm from New Orleans and spent a lot of time in Baton Rouge as a kid. I'm surprised I didn't write Alexandria while I was at it.

Botany

(70,663 posts)
2. Another NRA fantasy
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 07:27 AM
Jul 2016

“The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.” Wayne LaPierre

In Orlando, Dallas, and Baton Rouge there were good people with guns and that still didn't stop
the killings.

Botany

(70,663 posts)
5. LaPierre knows what he is saying is crap but he is doing it for the money ....
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 07:50 AM
Jul 2016

.... and he doesn't care about facts.

IronLionZion

(45,670 posts)
6. Good guys with guns look exactly like bad guys with guns
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 07:51 AM
Jul 2016

Dallas mayor and police chief stated that civilians open carrying guns made things worse in the chaos because police wasted resources when they didn't know who was the shooter or if there were more than one.

Also 2 of the police shootings were people who were not even charged with any crime and not touching their guns, but were shot and killed for being perceived as a dangerous threat after informing police they had guns.

IronLionZion

(45,670 posts)
4. Police are the first line of government civilians will encounter
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 07:50 AM
Jul 2016

first responders to incidents, first line of law enforcement, and they are at the community level. The regulations conservatives keep whining about are enforced by police.

Orrex

(63,295 posts)
8. I agree, and I made a similar argument yesterday
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 08:07 AM
Jul 2016

The problem for the NRA is that the particular people taking up arms against the government don't match the demographic to whom they've been hard-selling their bullshit all these years.

jmg257

(11,996 posts)
10. You kidding? Problem?!? Likely they love that the shooters are POC with a cause...
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 08:41 AM
Jul 2016

Non-white? Targeting LE?

Figure how much fear (and righteousness) THAT generates? How many gun sales? How much RW support?

That the shooters usually end up dead is probably seen as a bonus.

Ford_Prefect

(7,937 posts)
9. I am reminded of the blow-back against "Thelma and Louise" when it was women with guns
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 08:30 AM
Jul 2016

that sent chills down the spines of the same reactionary, gun toting, privileged white males.

Skittles

(153,314 posts)
20. I remember that too
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 10:57 PM
Jul 2016

they were SO DISTURBED that the tables could be turned - again, more evidence of their COWARDICE

Bonx

(2,081 posts)
13. The Baton Rouge and Dallas murders are examples of murderous racist lunatics
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 12:22 PM
Jul 2016

acting out their personal fantasies.

maxsolomon

(33,473 posts)
14. Like RW-White Insurrectionists, these 2 killers thought they were precipitating a rebellion
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 12:24 PM
Jul 2016

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"Seed Disturbances". You keep telling Americans that's why they get to carry semi-automatic long guns with an endless supply of ammunition, and eventually a couple of them are going to believe you.

Except that Ruby Ridge, Waco, and Malheur were paranoid fantasies, and systemic repression of Black Americans is all too real.

I've argued with a DU Gunner who calmly proposed following police to their homes and executing them as part of battling government tyranny. They are now on full ignore.

 
16. I would'nt say Waco and Ruby Ridge were fantasies since they did happen
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 03:18 PM
Jul 2016

But the overall problem is that the right is going to eat this up. It is not helping our cause or the BLM for that matter

maxsolomon

(33,473 posts)
17. That they represented a deliberate organized attempt to oppress rural white nationalists
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 04:36 PM
Jul 2016

Yes, that was a fantasy.

Note the kid gloves applied to the Bundy Ranch stand off, and, comparatively, Malheur.

Bucky

(54,094 posts)
18. Which is why all BLM activists are denouncing the murders.
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 04:40 PM
Jul 2016

Which should surprise no one. The sniper in Dallas was booted from the BLMers long before he lived out his nutty NRA fantasy

The killer in Baton Rouge was a loony extremist who'd been talking about racial separatism for years. He too rejected the BLM movement.

They both were the sort of loner lunatics who go around having Rambo fantasies, imagining they are the "one good man with a gun" that the NRA and the 2nd Amendment fanatics are constantly talking about.

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